Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 12:38:58 -0700 (PDT) From: jessem@livecam.com To: jkh@osd.bsdi.com Cc: jessemonroy@email.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [jkh@osd.bsdi.com: ANNOUNCE: Status update on ftp.freebsd.org A KA ftp.freesoftware.com] Message-ID: <200105031939.MAA12912@dnull.com> In-Reply-To: <20010503120544M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
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On 3 May, Jordan Hubbard wrote: >> charter-smarter... the point is everyone within the FreeBSD community >> should be aware of this situation. > > You don't get to make that call, Jesus. The charters are there for a > reason, most notably the fact that some people (hi) seem to think that > the rules only apply if they don't personally feel a really strong > need to break them. That's not what rules are about and it's > specifically to curb the tendency towards "individualistic > interpretation" that they exist. Bad Jesus, no biscuit for this > round. > Biscuit? Your spending too much time in irc. Yak... let's stick to busines. Please drop this. >> Per Windriver, the announcement on April 4, 2001 clearly >> states in the second headline, "Agreement Ensures Continued >> Support of Open Source FreeBSD Project." In plain english, >> this should mean we can continue to develop as we have >> in the past and when Windriver has a course change we >> will listen. > > Well, WindRiver has no "course changes" in mind at this point and > aren't even actively engaged yet. Go talk to any of the BSDi > employees in engineering and you'll find that all of them STILL WORK > FOR BSDi and that the deal is still very much "in progress" at this > time. > Funny thing is I already know of this. > What you read back in early April was a press release stating an > INTENT to do all of these things, and if you were at all familiar with > the bigger deals like this one, you'd know that months can often pass > between the time where everyone states an intention to do something > and when the lawyers finally finish looking through all the paperwork > and sign off on actually doing it. Only someone very naive' about how > businesses work would actually expect that a full take-over has > occurred in less than a month and that we're all now marching to the > beat of a different drummer. Ha! > Okay, I'll take this as a fact. And pass this as your word on the subject. > That's also why at least 99% of the government conspiracy theories > don't hold water either, though I hate to disappoint you on this too, > since they presuppose a highly efficient and skilled government at > work when in fact no such thing currently exists on this planet. > Please stop this line. >> Then again as I BCC Lynne for the last time on this subject, >> I must consider she is right. Because I have not heard this *just* >> from her, "the aging BSD mafia...prefer to sit in their towers >> reliving past intrigues and battles. The have become anachronism >> in an Internet World." > > Tell Lynne to come out of hiding someday and perhaps she can start > talking with more credibility about "sitting around in towers reliving > past intrigues and battles." :-) > Tit for tat. Okay, let's get to brass tacks. 1) Word is already out that the domain freesoftware.com has been sold. Can you confirm this? 2) Speculation exists that FreeBSD is only making release to generate cash, not because any real changes apply to the software. 3) Speculation that the machine (aka ftp.freesoftware.com) was lost because it never really belonged to FreeBSD. Therefore, this recent ftp failure was not only a knee-jerk reaction to "unplanned resource" problems, but because serious loses of equipment. To quote you, "ftp.freesoftware.com (AKA the old ftp.freebsd.org) is off the net for now and there is unfortunately no ETA for its return."
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