Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2025 01:59:05 +0100 From: Lars Tunkrans <drsnx60@gmail.com> To: Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> Cc: FreeBSD CURRENT <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Why is the DVD image so large? Message-ID: <c4838d37-129c-434b-ac8e-a4fcc0fccef0@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8cb72b717229553bb4ca6849ca590298@bsdforge.com> References: <d7757e06-1199-42a3-9b41-cc7d210fce0b@blastwave.org> <0b0432cb-1f7c-4c62-bf25-65e243163f25@gmail.com> <8cb72b717229553bb4ca6849ca590298@bsdforge.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] Den 2025-11-03 kl. 00:59, Chris wrote : > On 2025-11-01 12:44, Lars Tunkrans wrote: >> Den 2025-11-01 kl. 15:06, skrev Dennis Clarke: >>> >>> >>> * * * I am happy to ask the dumb questions * * * >>> >>> >>> This morning I see that we have FreeBSD 15.0 BETA4 iso stuff : >>> >>> https://download.freebsd.org/releases/ISO-IMAGES/15.0/?C=M&O=D >>> >>> For doing a test install onto some real hardware I felt it would be >>> nice to try out the iso images for ye old fashioned DVD. Worth a try? >>> >>> However I see : >>> >>> FreeBSD-15.0-BETA4-amd64-dvd1.iso 5150257152 2025-Oct-31 12:38 >>> FreeBSD-15.0-BETA4-amd64-dvd1.iso.xz 4276839812 2025-Oct-31 12:38 >>> >>> Now the dvd1 image seems a tad large for an actual DVD media. I think >>> this has been the case for a very long time now. >>> >>> Why is the DVD image so large? Can something/anything be trimmed out? >>> >> >> HI Dennis >> >> Beta3 did not have the KDE Packages and was 4 GB . >> BETA4 >> has the KDE packages and is 4.8 GB >> Just 100 MB to large for a standard DVD of 4.7 GB >> I looked at the cost of DVD-R media and DVD-DL ( Double >> Layer ) >> media at Amazon . And prices is very similar for 50 DVD & >> DVD-DL >> spindle packs. >> There is no economic reason for not buying 8.5 GB DVD-DL >> media . >> SO its possible to put even more packages on a DVD-DL_ISO >> ( Up to >> 8,5 GB ) which would make offline installation a lot easier. > How does this pertain to reader/writers? Different burners have > different capabilities. *The DVD-R DL format was released to the market in 2005. ( according to the Google AI & Wikipedia ) * Your DVD Writer/Reader needs to have been bought for more than 15 years ago, to not support DVD-DL format. basically three Computer generations. > >> >> All thats needed is to Document that DVD-DL media is >> required >> for the DVD-DL_ISO >> >> Regards > -- ------------------------- Lars Tunkrans Oracle SPARC/Solaris System Administrator Fujitsu M12 SPARC Specilaist [-- Attachment #2 --] <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> <p><br> </p> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 2025-11-03 kl. 00:59, Chris wrote :<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:8cb72b717229553bb4ca6849ca590298@bsdforge.com">On 2025-11-01 12:44, Lars Tunkrans wrote: <br> <blockquote type="cite">Den 2025-11-01 kl. 15:06, skrev Dennis Clarke: <br> <blockquote type="cite"> <br> <br> * * * I am happy to ask the dumb questions * * * <br> <br> <br> This morning I see that we have FreeBSD 15.0 BETA4 iso stuff : <br> <br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://download.freebsd.org/releases/ISO-IMAGES/15.0/?C=M&O=D">https://download.freebsd.org/releases/ISO-IMAGES/15.0/?C=M&O=D</a>; <br> <br> For doing a test install onto some real hardware I felt it would be nice to try out the iso images for ye old fashioned DVD. Worth a try? <br> <br> However I see : <br> <br> FreeBSD-15.0-BETA4-amd64-dvd1.iso 5150257152 2025-Oct-31 12:38 <br> FreeBSD-15.0-BETA4-amd64-dvd1.iso.xz 4276839812 2025-Oct-31 12:38 <br> <br> Now the dvd1 image seems a tad large for an actual DVD media. I think <br> this has been the case for a very long time now. <br> <br> Why is the DVD image so large? Can something/anything be trimmed out? <br> <br> </blockquote> <br> HI Dennis <br> <br> Beta3 did not have the KDE Packages and was 4 GB . BETA4 <br> has the KDE packages and is 4.8 GB <br> Just 100 MB to large for a standard DVD of 4.7 GB <br> I looked at the cost of DVD-R media and DVD-DL ( Double Layer ) <br> media at Amazon . And prices is very similar for 50 DVD & DVD-DL <br> spindle packs. <br> There is no economic reason for not buying 8.5 GB DVD-DL media . <br> SO its possible to put even more packages on a DVD-DL_ISO ( Up to <br> 8,5 GB ) which would make offline installation a lot easier. <br> </blockquote> How does this pertain to reader/writers? Different burners have different capabilities. <br> </blockquote> <span class="T286Pc" data-sfc-cp="" data-processed="true"><br> </span><br> <span class="T286Pc" data-sfc-cp="" data-processed="true"><b>The DVD-R DL format was released to the market in 2005. ( according to the Google AI & Wikipedia ) </b></span><br> Your DVD Writer/Reader needs to have been bought for more than 15 years ago, to not support DVD-DL format. <br> basically three Computer generations. <p><br> </p> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:8cb72b717229553bb4ca6849ca590298@bsdforge.com"><br> <blockquote type="cite"> <br> All thats needed is to Document that DVD-DL media is required <br> for the DVD-DL_ISO <br> <br> Regards <br> </blockquote> <br> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- ------------------------- Lars Tunkrans Oracle SPARC/Solaris System Administrator Fujitsu M12 SPARC Specilaist</pre> </body> </html>help
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