Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 18:10:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Watson <scanner@webspan.net> To: Nate Williams <nate@sri.MT.net> Cc: Terry Lee <terryl@ienet.com>, John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>, jkh@time.cdrom.com, stable@freebsd.org, committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of -stable Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.93.960606175315.3036G-100000@orion.webspan.net> In-Reply-To: <199606061918.NAA26483@rocky.sri.MT.net>
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On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Nate Williams wrote:
> > I'm not saying that you should do this or that, just expressing that the
> > -stable branch is very valuable in userland if only for a bug fixes and
> > new device drivers.
>
> Actually, the reason for the big 'merge' was that there are lots of
> userland fixes in -current that would be nice to have in -stable.
> However, bringing them in *after* the fact is a pain, and bringing them
> in at the original commit time is a mistake.
Agreed. I also agree that the release engineer and the others will do
whats best for them with no negative feelings from me or anyone on the
bsdnet network. The core team is an excellent group of developers.
And they work extremely hard. But for me running an ISP, -release is fine
but knowing there is a ongoing src tree of bug fixes and patches to broken
things that didnt work in release but that work now, is a huge bonus to us
all in the ISP game. If I had a can not being used in production here i
would be more than happy to run -current (im alread partialy nuts what
could current do to me more? :) ) I know several people that run current,
I dont think there is a lack of effort on people to run current to test
out bleeding edge changes and all the really cool bells and whistles. Im
just saying that as an ISP, no other vendor in the univers has anything
first off comparable to the daily work that one can sup or CTM to get new
src. And having a -stable (for the most part) tree is a godsend to me for
my ISP. Having the ability to grab a src tree with some new bells and
whistles but mostly for stable fixes and enhancments to the -release im
running is something that you just cannot compare anyone other unix to.
I dont envy the work the core does to fbsd. 2.2 in my opinion is going to
really impress the unix vendors out there. Dyson's VM changes I would KILL
to get a hold of now, but like i said because my cans are in production
use i CANT grab -current. I can wait :)
Anyway whatever the jordan and david and the others decide is 100% fine
with me, i just want them to know how much i appreciate there being a
-stable tree, FBSD is THE best damn unix in the univers! :)
nukign -stable isnt going to do anything to fbsd you could revert back to
fbsd 1.x and it would still rock!
Anyway just think twice before nuking -stable and see if you can come up
with any possible solutions before nuking it.
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