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Date:      Tue, 28 May 2024 15:30:09 +0200
From:      Erichans <erichanskrs@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Small addition to 14.1 Release Proces web page
Message-ID:  <CAM9dGPug7tGNZfwLgJYtYQYeagpSxOsK0Ted4%2B0YxbsDPVJD3w@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi,



I have a suggestion to add to

https://www.freebsd.org/releases/14.1R/schedule/

at the Introduction section:

--

Announcements of pre-releases, such as 14.1-BETA1 and 14.1-RC1, and
available installation images are made on the <freebsd-stable> mailing
list. 14.1-RELEASE will be announced on <freebsd-announce> and elsewhere.

--



Maybe helpful because:

- Avoids unnecessary failed probes such as "freebsd-update -r 14.1-RC1
upgrade"

After the version jump of source:

https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?h=releng/14.1&id=4de43de58f519f5c7a68925ecadc77cdf37f9f30

it may take some time until binaries have all been made available; because
for example:

https://cgit.freebsd.org/doc/commit/?id=af4faed610



- Emphasizes promotion and use of pre-release versions (and efficient use
of FreeBSD mailing lists).

It may well not be immediately clear to FreeBSD novices in general and
users not familiar with -STABLE in particular, anxiously awaiting a
pre-release version, that the stable mailing list is used for these
announcements.



- The FreeBSD Handbook currently does not mention that announcements of
pre-releases are made on the stable mailing list.



Kind regards,

Eric

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:11pt">Hi,</span><br></div><div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=C2=A0</span><=
/p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I have a
suggestion to add to</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"htt=
ps://www.freebsd.org/releases/14.1R/schedule/">https://www.freebsd.org/rele=
ases/14.1R/schedule/</a></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">at the
Introduction section:</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">--</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Announcements
of pre-releases, such as 14.1-BETA1 and 14.1-RC1, and available installatio=
n
images are made on the &lt;freebsd-stable&gt; mailing list. 14.1-RELEASE wi=
ll
be announced on &lt;freebsd-announce&gt; and elsewhere.</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">--</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=C2=A0</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:11pt">=C2=A0=C2=A0</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Maybe
helpful because:</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">- Avoids unnec=
essary
failed probes such as &quot;freebsd-update -r 14.1-RC1 upgrade&quot;</span>=
</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">After the
version jump of source:</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"htt=
ps://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?h=3Dreleng/14.1&amp;id=3D4de43de58f519f5c=
7a68925ecadc77cdf37f9f30">https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?h=3Dreleng/1=
4.1&amp;id=3D4de43de58f519f5c7a68925ecadc77cdf37f9f30</a></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">it may take
some time until binaries have all been made available; because for example:=
</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"htt=
ps://cgit.freebsd.org/doc/commit/?id=3Daf4faed610">https://cgit.freebsd.org=
/doc/commit/?id=3Daf4faed610</a></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=C2=A0</span><=
/p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">-
Emphasizes promotion and use of pre-release versions (and efficient use of
FreeBSD mailing lists).</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">It may well
not be immediately clear to FreeBSD novices in general and users not famili=
ar
with -STABLE in particular, anxiously awaiting a pre-release version, that =
the
stable mailing list is used for these announcements.</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=C2=A0</span><=
/p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">- The
FreeBSD Handbook currently does not mention that announcements of pre-relea=
ses are
made on the stable mailing list.</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=C2=A0</span><=
/p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Kind
regards,</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Eric</span></p=
></div></div>

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