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Date:      Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:43:40 +0100
From:      =?UTF-8?Q?Bojan_Novkovi=C4=87?= <bnovkov@freebsd.org>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
Cc:        Current <current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Multiple issues with current (kldload failures, missing CTF stuff, pty issues, ...)
Message-ID:  <9dce6c42-0236-447c-b78b-dd03adff6eaa@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <09ef22679b76cb2dbeace8e78bf9f80e@Leidinger.net>
References:  <09ef22679b76cb2dbeace8e78bf9f80e@Leidinger.net>

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On 3/29/24 16:52, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> sources from 2024-03-11 work. Sources from 2024-03-25 and today don't 
> work (see below for the issue). As the monthly stabilisation pass 
> didn't find obvious issues, it is something related to my setup:
>  - not a generic kernel
>  - very modular kernel (as much as possible as a module)
>  - bind_now (a build without fails too, tested with clean /usr/obj)
>  - ccache (a build without fails too, tested with clean /usr/obj)
>  - kernel retpoline (build without in progress)
>  - userland retpoline (build without in progress)
>  - kernel build with WITH_CTF / DDB_CTF (next one to test if it isn't 
> retpoline)
>  - -fno-builtin
>  - CPUFLAGS=native (except for stuff in /usr/src/sys/boot)
>  - malloc production
>  - COPTFLAGS= -O2 -pipe
>
> The issue is, that kernel modules load OK from loader, but once it 
> starts init any module fails to load (e.g. via autodetection of 
> hardware or rc.conf kld_list) with the message that the kernel and 
> module versions are out of sync and the module refuses to load.
>
> I tried the workaround to load the modules from the loader, which 
> works, but then I can't login remotely as ssh fails to allocate a pty. 
> By loading modules via the loader, I can see messages about missing 
> CTF info when the nvidia modules (from ports = not yet rebuild = in 
> /boot/modules/...ko instead of /boot/kernel/...ko) try to get 
> initialised... and it looks like they are failing to get initialised 
> because of this missing CTF stuff (I'm back to the previous boot env 
> to be able to login remotely and send mails, I don't have a copy of 
> the failure message at hand).
>
> I assume the missing CTF stuff is due to the CTF based pretty printing 
> (https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=c21bc6f3c2425de74141bfee07b609bf65b5a6b3). 
> Is this supposed to fail to load modules which are compiled without 
> CTF data? Shouldn't this work gracefully (e.g. spit out a warning that 
> pretty printing is not available for module X and have the module 
> working)?
>
This is indeed how it works, those messages are emitted by CTF loading 
routines in 'kern/kern_ctf.c' as a warning and do not affect the rest of 
the module loading process.

However, I completely agree that they are cryptic and spammy, I'll try 
to do something about that.

Bojan




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