Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 10:47:00 +0800 From: "Philip Paeps" <philip@freebsd.org> To: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> Cc: ctm-users@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo now has all delta lists Message-ID: <DE44D887-F1B4-49B6-B02C-FF6FABB9F6D6@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <201909122343.x8CNgwm2091270@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201909122343.x8CNgwm2091270@fire.js.berklix.net>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On 2019-09-13 07:42:58 (+0800), Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, Reference: >> From: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> >> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 02:02:37 +0200 > > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: >> Hi CTM users, >> >>> http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo >>> Now carries all CTM delta mail lists also carried by >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo >> >> mailman.berklix.org delta lists are all tested OK. I switched >> to use them to maintain my personal copies of freebsd trees. >> >> lists.freebsd.org delta lists seem OK, though cant be sure of old lists as >> ctm-src-cur@ at least still awaits un-moderating to remove manual approvals. >> >>> Info: http://ctm.berklix.org/#latest >> >> Cheers, >> Julian > > freebsd.org has still not fixed list[s (*)] ctm-src-cur@ etc since > before Sat, 17 Aug 2019. Delta pieces via ctm-src-cur@freebsd.org > are delayed until moderators@freebsd.org manualy approve. A sample: > > ] Your mail to 'ctm-src-cur' with the subject > ] ctm-mail src-cur.14189.gz 1/1 > ] Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > ] The reason it is being held: > ] Post to moderated list > > (*) ctm-src-10-fast@ saw the same fault Sun, 25 Aug 2019, Maybe > the fault is still there, as that was our last delta to that stream. > > (*) The same fault may or not exist on some other CTM lists, we > won't know unless the generator emits new deltas, (which would only > happen if freebsd.org's svn tree sees new commits to old tags). > > (*) I asked for access to CTM lists to check, but was ignored so can't inspect. > > I did subscribe the sender address & ask postmaster@freebsd.org to > check it was unmoderated for all CTM lists, but it didn't fix it. > > freebsd.org continues to fail, wasting moderators@freebsd.org time & my time. > > Fri, 16 Aug 2019 05:33:34 +0200 I announced: >> http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo >> Now carries all CTM delta mail lists also carried by >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo > > One might think "Better to stay with the original lists on FreeBSD", > But not so: The data path was never just on freebsd.org: > Earlier it was freebsd.org SVN mirror to CTM generator scripts > on missouri.edu; then back to lists on freebsd.org. > Now it's freebsd.org SVN mirror to CTM generator on berklix.org; > Then to both lists, on: berklix.org (OK) & freebsd.org (failing). > & some freebsd.org lists delay & break > > Best migrate your CTM delta subscriptions from freebsd.org to berklix.org > > In case of later illness or absence, I could now give a 2nd person > access to manage CTM delta lists. Someone who values CTM & idealy > also familiar with mailman admin. > > Cheers, > Julian > -- > Julian Stacey, Consultant Sys. Eng. BSD Linux Unix, Munich Aachen Kent. > http://stolenvotes.uk#StopTheCoup http://berklix.org/brexit/#snouts_in_trough > UK stole 3.7 M votes from Brits abroad; 2.4 M now > 18 had no vote; 1.6 M old > died; Minority PM of the 350 M Red Bus Lie = Hard Brexit = Crash & violence. > Parliament suspension unlawful https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-49661855 I have checked again and all the moderator bits for all the ctm-* lists are off for your email address. I don't know why it's not working for you. I should point out that the FreeBSD Project has moved to Subversion more than eleven years ago and is actively looking into moving to Git. There is a limit to how much time any of us are willing to put into keeping a hack around two revision control systems ago alive. If it is easier for you to host CTM as a third-party service, I'm sure the doc team could be convinced to change any links in documentation accordingly. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEE9Xl/y/HxTiwoqUh7fGK8R3bJ8p4FAl17AyQACgkQfGK8R3bJ 8p4zUQf/UqCnsp67gKx1jWA/E+mEahrl1wRe9VqvOAaXNSgY92GAPOikSqSApql1 0Ap8Z5v3ZowQ47UHCJA/ZZ5jElgyVTjQj5AE9s71A15/IIDMyDYdfifC8HWGczoL xwRwq6Fm3ezFE5iL1m4zfmJiO8Lsu5rzvacdbYn0O9mGWDgt6A1mKaMA5btBtJok gaVxHiv5XGaAFFn0u9a3K44PYnPGBGN8WaWv57xpZaTF+VsM/vr+TqwqbDPqf1ul lWDZTONY5u4cgU8WvUy1Bx+FRHYY20cVk9FzcjM4JRzRXzIQmuMYWmMYMPtefHiJ 9XDyNCxauxRjFEb9OAwwfwqoiDnDDA== =SL/v -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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