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Date:      Sun, 7 Oct 2001 20:04:55 GMT
From:      groggy@iname.com
To:        "Choudhury, Raj" <raj.choudhury@de.opel.com>
Message-ID:  <200110072004.UAA01391@groggy.anc.acsalaska.net>

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> the following local filter on my MUA
> strips 99% of all my junk mail.  and
> i think something similar would do
> the same for freebsd-questions,
> considering, most junk mail
> is destined for windows users
> and contains specific markers
> for "flashiness" such as
> "JavaScript" and "&nbsp"
> that people emailing
> FBSD.org wouldn't use.
> 
> (to reply to this mail, i had to pick it up, re-mail it
> to my ISP, telnet into my ISP, open my mail there,
> re-edit the email, and then re-mail it again.
> bleargh!)
> 
> and regarding the last point, it is primarily
> a user responsibility to filter mail, thinking
> along practical lines of rights and freedoms.
> since when is it a "server" responsibility???
>
> i would strongly suggest that it is a users
> right and responsibility to read or delete
> their emails as they deem necessary, not
> and ISP/server responsibility to do it for him/her.
>
> why does everyone seem to appear to depend on authority
> to protect their rights and freedoms in exchange
> for maintaining them and protecting them for themselves?
> it should be well established at this time in history that
> the protection and maintenance of rights and freedoms is
> an individual personal responsibilty, and when we rely on
> authority for that purpose - we end up with no rights and
> no freedoms, and everything is a big kludge.
> 
> if you don't like junk email, why not delete it yourself (manually
> or via personal filter) - and keep things free from authority and kludges?
> we should all know that when we ask authority to maintain our
> freedoms and rights we end up with no rights and no freedoms.
>
> (newsworthy inuendos not intended to affect the technical virtues :).
> --------------------------------
> #!/usr/bin/egrep  -qf
> &nbsp
> 100% [Ll][Ee][Gg][Aa][Ll]
> DIPLOMA
> F R E E
> FREE
> GUARANTEED
> JavaScript
> X-From_:
> [Tt]o [Bb]e [Rr]emoved
> [Tt]o [Bb]e [Tt]aken [Oo]ff
> [Uu]ndisclosed[-.][Rr]ecipients
> \$\$\$
> checks? or money orders?
> --------------------------------
> 
> > > freebsd-questions bounces mail back:
> > >
> > > a) when you connect with a dynamic PPP account
> > >    and use your local sendmail (instead of the ISP MTA).
> > >
> > > b) when you are on a private ethernet behind a "ppp -nat"
> > >    connection and use your machines local sendmail
> > >    (instead of the gateways MTA).
> > >
> > > and it's very irritating to say the least.
> > > i know it is for SPAM control purposes,
> > > but i think there are better ways
> > > to control spam without punishing
> > > legitimate emails from a) + b) above.
> > 
> > You may think, but from what's been said previously on this list, that
> > single filter alone blocks around one spam message every three minutes. I
> > think we'd all agree that that is "A Good Thing".
> > 
> > That said, I'm not an admin of the mail server at freebsd.org, and I'm sure
> > they would be more qualified to answer as to whether (and why) other
> > methods of blocking spam do or do not work.
> > 
> > Mark
> 
> > > that
> > > single filter alone blocks around one spam message every three minutes. I
> > > think we'd all agree that that is "A Good Thing".
> > > 
> > 
> > Having sent two complaints to abuse@<name.com> today only, I 
> > can only say, thankyou to the administration for stopping all of the 
> > others.
> > 
> > Stuart.

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