Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:01:33 -0400 From: Charles Green <green@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> To: gjennejohn@frt.dec.com Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux Willows? Message-ID: <199608061401.KAA28193@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> In-Reply-To: garyj@frt.dec.com "Re: Linux Willows?" (Aug 6, 11:35)
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garyj@frt.dec.com stands accused of saying: } Date: Aug 6, 11:35 } Subject: Re: Linux Willows? } } terry@lambert.org writes: } > > Could someone explain what Linux Willow is and where to get a copy of it } > > from? } > There was a list for people who had agreed to their non-disclosure and } > obtained the software for porting to FreeBSD. Sujal Patel was the } > primary source of FreeBSD fixes (I am also on the list). I haven't } > seen any traffic on the list for quite some time now. } > } > There was at least a beta version (their code, plus our patches) up for } > FTP on their site for FreeBSD. I believe that the changes have been } > sufficiently radical in -current that the code needs some work, but } > it was running Windows apps sufficiently to run MSWord on the 386 } > emulator under FreeBSD, and Sujal was working on some stack problems } > for running using the native processor in protected mode... } > } } unfortunately, the only source tarball on the server is still 1.5.2 } from February. I doubt that this corresponds to the new 2.0 binaries } available now. } } Some time ago Jordan sent Willows a CD and supposedly they were } planning to set up a development machine. Doesn't look like this } ever happened :( } Well, last week I dropped them some e-mail and asked them about the once promised FreeBSD port. (I also asked for permission to publish their response) } --- } Gary Jennejohn (work) gjennejohn@frt.dec.com } (home) Gary.Jennejohn@munich.netsurf.de } (play) gj@freebsd.org } } }-- End of excerpt from garyj@frt.dec.com Hello Charles, Thanks for your interest in the 32-bit Willows Toolkit (formerly known as TWIN APIW)! We just posted beta versions of Linux and Solaris, with Mac and the other UNIX versions coming soon. And no, there is no FreeBSD version planned available right now. HOWEVER, a significant amount of work went into it in the past (with the 16 bit version), which means that we could introduce a 32-bit version cross-platform toolkit (no xwin emulator for now) with a few more weeks of work. We have now gone to a commercial model (we charge for our products and services, since no one paid us for our products before) and can no longer expend engineering resources unless there is a return on our investment. I am sure you appreciate the problem! The Willows Toolkit for UNIX (includes source for the libraries for 9 different UNIX platforms) costs $4,995 per named developer (with sharp quantity discounts) + 20% per year for support. Not only is this price much lower than the other commercial alternatives, but we charge no royalties (others charge from $75 to $100 per shipped copy of the application you build), we provide the source to the libraries and we have a Macintosh version (so we're much more of a true cross-platform solution, we're not just UNIX). We could very well introduce a FreeBSD version within weeks if we had just 3 or 4 orders (to cover our costs). If you feel the availability of a cross-platform toolkit would make a difference toward a broader acceptance of FreeBSD, can you help drum up interest in it so we can justify finishing the work (and yes, it's OK to post this on the mailing lists)? We would very much like to introduce such a version, but we need help! I look forward to hearing from you, Charles! Best regards, Laurent -- Charles Green, PRC Inc. Rome Laboratory, NY
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