Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:01:01 -0400 From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> To: Manolis Kiagias <sonic2000gr@gmail.com> Cc: Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk>, freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.2 RC1 amd64 Installation Message-ID: <a333b2be0904182101j49dcfd16qe9513695ea1f578f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49EA6E33.1060906@gmail.com> References: <a333b2be0904181604g2ad6adb0ieb097226370287a@mail.gmail.com> <20090419010904.714c2dc2@gluon.draftnet> <49EA6E33.1060906@gmail.com>
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On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Manolis Kiagias <sonic2000gr@gmail.com>wrote: > Bruce Cran wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:04:26 -0400 > > Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> (3) When shutdown is selected from Gnome menu either by the first > >> user or the root , within displayed dialog box > >> there is no a Shutdown item . > >> It is necessary for the root open a terminal console , and enter > >> shutdown -p now command . > >> > > > > Have you installed sudo? I think those options > > (suspend/shutdown/hibernate) only get displayed if HAL sees sudo is > > available. > > > > > Fact is you will get these options either if you have sudo and your user > account is authorized to shutdown / reboot (this is the fallback method > though) or if PolicyKit is configured (see > /usr/local/etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf) to allow shutdown/reboot. > > Entries will look similar to these: > > <match action="org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.shutdown"> > <match user="yourusername"> > <return result="yes"/> > </match> > </match> > <match action="org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.reboot"> > <match user="yourusername"> > <return result="yes"/> > </match> > </match> > > Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html for more > HAL fun ;) > Nearly all of my expressed ideas about FreeBSD is not about my own requirements but especially newly beginning users . This point is utmost importance for me because my profession was the teaching of programming languages to the students in the University by starting from Introduction to computing . In those days computers were not available as they are today . I know how difficult is to make a start to learning to use a computing systems with respect to observations of the students . Then I want to emphasize the points that will be difficult for the new users to overcome at the beginning . If we do not reduce usage difficulty level of FreeBSD as much as possible it will prevent adoption of FreeBSD so much . Why FreeBSD so important for me is not a good question because FreeBSD is an excellent operating system with an immensely invested efforts by its very valuable developers and I think it is second to none . For my own difficulties : I wish - the Handbook includes more examples . - the man pages includes more examples for typical situations . In that respect my idea is that freebsd-questions and other lists contain excellent cases and solutions to them . In those days there is a concept of data mining . Actually these lists are containing very good sample cases and their solutions . By traversing the questions and problems and answers to them may be utilized to enhance the man pages and the handbook . This requires extensive knowledge about the Handbook and man pages which I do not have yet . Knowledgeable FreeBSD developers may contribute to this process . It is known that ideas expressed in mailing lists may be utilized for this process and my opinion is that no one will object to utilization of his/her ideas in such a utilization . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk.
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