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Date:      Mon, 17 Jul 2023 11:58:55 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org,  dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: git: 60381fd1ee86 - main - memdesc: Retire MEMDESC_CCB.
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On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 11:54 AM Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 11:29:20AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 11:15 AM John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On 7/17/23 8:48 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 06:41:03PM +0000, John Baldwin wrote:
> > > >> The branch main has been updated by jhb:
> > > >>
> > > >> URL:
> > >
> https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=60381fd1ee8668ea1e4676a6128883d987cab858
> > > >>
> > > >> commit 60381fd1ee8668ea1e4676a6128883d987cab858
> > > >> Author:     John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
> > > >> AuthorDate: 2023-07-14 18:30:31 +0000
> > > >> Commit:     John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
> > > >> CommitDate: 2023-07-14 18:32:16 +0000
> > > >>
> > > >>      memdesc: Retire MEMDESC_CCB.
> > > >>
> > > >>      Instead, change memdesc_ccb to examine the CCB and return a
> > > memdesc of
> > > >>      a more generic type describing the data buffer.
> > > >
> > > >> diff --git a/sys/kern/subr_bus_dma.c b/sys/kern/subr_bus_dma.c
> > > >> index 65a08aeba17c..bfaad30b37d3 100644
> > > >> --- a/sys/kern/subr_bus_dma.c
> > > >> +++ b/sys/kern/subr_bus_dma.c
> > > >> @@ -304,94 +304,6 @@ bus_dmamap_load_ma_triv(bus_dma_tag_t dmat,
> > > bus_dmamap_t map,
> > > >> @@ -566,49 +478,18 @@ bus_dmamap_load_ccb(bus_dma_tag_t dmat,
> > > bus_dmamap_t map, union ccb *ccb,
> > > >> +    mem = memdesc_ccb(ccb);
> > > >> +    return (bus_dmamap_load_mem(dmat, map, &mem, callback,
> > > callback_arg,
> > > >> +        flags));
> > > >>   }
> > > > This makes kernel not linkable if CAM is not included into it.
> > >
> > > Hmmm, ok.  I can either move the memdesc_ccb routine into sys/kern
> > > somewhere
> > > (like the kern_memdesc.c file in my other pending review), or we can
> #ifdef
> > > this function.  It probably doesn't make sense to have a
> > > bus_dmamap_load_ccb
> > > if you don't have CAM, so I think I prefer the second option.
> > >
> >
> > MINIMAL doesn't have CAM configured, but it is loadable as a module.
> >
> > I'd think we'd want a dummy one fo these with weak symbol binding and
> have
> > the actual
> > one live in cam somewhere that overrides this  symbol.
> The symbol resolution does not work this way in kernel.  And it cannot
> made working this way even in theory, because cam.ko is loadable at
> runtime.
>

Yea... It could, if we have perfect knowledge of all the places that it is
called.
But I don't think we do, now that I think about it... so yes, it's good to
want things,
but in this case my desire cannot exist, I agree.


> I believe the only feasible solution is to move memdesc_ccb() into kernel
> unconditionally.
>

Or if it was in cam.h and made a static inline. It's short enough that
won't bloat
the kernel in the half a dozen places its called, and it would give similar
performance
to what we have today with the half a dozen nearly identical copies of
this routine.
And since it's all done with structure dancing, there's no other bits of
CAM that would
be brought into the kernel.

Warner

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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 11:54 AM Konstantin Belousov &lt;<a href="mailto:kostikbel@gmail.com">kostikbel@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 11:29:20AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:<br>
&gt; On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 11:15 AM John Baldwin &lt;<a href="mailto:jhb@freebsd.org" target="_blank">jhb@freebsd.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; On 7/17/23 8:48 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 06:41:03PM +0000, John Baldwin wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; The branch main has been updated by jhb:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; URL:<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href="https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=60381fd1ee8668ea1e4676a6128883d987cab858" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=60381fd1ee8668ea1e4676a6128883d987cab858</a><br>;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; commit 60381fd1ee8668ea1e4676a6128883d987cab858<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Author:     John Baldwin &lt;jhb@FreeBSD.org&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; AuthorDate: 2023-07-14 18:30:31 +0000<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Commit:     John Baldwin &lt;jhb@FreeBSD.org&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; CommitDate: 2023-07-14 18:32:16 +0000<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;      memdesc: Retire MEMDESC_CCB.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;      Instead, change memdesc_ccb to examine the CCB and return a<br>
&gt; &gt; memdesc of<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;      a more generic type describing the data buffer.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; diff --git a/sys/kern/subr_bus_dma.c b/sys/kern/subr_bus_dma.c<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; index 65a08aeba17c..bfaad30b37d3 100644<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; --- a/sys/kern/subr_bus_dma.c<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; +++ b/sys/kern/subr_bus_dma.c<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; @@ -304,94 +304,6 @@ bus_dmamap_load_ma_triv(bus_dma_tag_t dmat,<br>
&gt; &gt; bus_dmamap_t map,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; @@ -566,49 +478,18 @@ bus_dmamap_load_ccb(bus_dma_tag_t dmat,<br>
&gt; &gt; bus_dmamap_t map, union ccb *ccb,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; +    mem = memdesc_ccb(ccb);<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; +    return (bus_dmamap_load_mem(dmat, map, &amp;mem, callback,<br>
&gt; &gt; callback_arg,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; +        flags));<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;   }<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; This makes kernel not linkable if CAM is not included into it.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Hmmm, ok.  I can either move the memdesc_ccb routine into sys/kern<br>
&gt; &gt; somewhere<br>
&gt; &gt; (like the kern_memdesc.c file in my other pending review), or we can #ifdef<br>
&gt; &gt; this function.  It probably doesn&#39;t make sense to have a<br>
&gt; &gt; bus_dmamap_load_ccb<br>
&gt; &gt; if you don&#39;t have CAM, so I think I prefer the second option.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; MINIMAL doesn&#39;t have CAM configured, but it is loadable as a module.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I&#39;d think we&#39;d want a dummy one fo these with weak symbol binding and have<br>
&gt; the actual<br>
&gt; one live in cam somewhere that overrides this  symbol.<br>
The symbol resolution does not work this way in kernel.  And it cannot<br>
made working this way even in theory, because cam.ko is loadable at<br>
runtime.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yea... It could, if we have perfect knowledge of all the places that it is called.</div><div>But I don&#39;t think we do, now that I think about it... so yes, it&#39;s good to want things,</div><div>but in this case my desire cannot exist, I agree.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
I believe the only feasible solution is to move memdesc_ccb() into kernel<br>
unconditionally.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Or if it was in cam.h and made a static inline. It&#39;s short enough that won&#39;t bloat</div><div>the kernel in the half a dozen places its called, and it would give similar performance</div><div>to what we have today with the half a dozen nearly identical copies of  this routine.</div><div>And since it&#39;s all done with structure dancing, there&#39;s no other bits of CAM that would</div><div>be brought into the kernel.</div><div><br></div><div>Warner</div></div></div>

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