Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:25:25 -0400 From: Stephen Clark <Stephen.Clark@seclark.us> To: Volker <volker@vwsoft.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bug-free software (Re: ARRRRGH! Guys, who's breaking -STABLE's GMIRROR code?!) Message-ID: <4504ACF5.6050303@seclark.us> In-Reply-To: <4504A89A.5070400@vwsoft.com> References: <20060910035614.282CD16A58D@hub.freebsd.org> <45049112.3@vwsoft.com> <20060910233325.GA3845@holestein.holy.cow> <4504A89A.5070400@vwsoft.com>
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Volker wrote: >On 2006-09-11 01:33, 'Anubhav A.' wrote: > > >>in message <45049112.3@vwsoft.com>, wrote Volker thusly... >> >> >>>we're talking about software. Have you ever seen a piece of software which has >>>been really bug-free? Not the hello-world, I'm talking >>> >>> >>Recently i read about which is more than "hello-world" ... >> >> They Write the Right Stuff >> http://www.fastcompany.com/online/06/writestuff.html >> >> >>... but you did ask. >> >> >> - Parv >> >> >> > >Interesting article but I really do not believe even the shuttle >software is 100% bug free. Just because there has been only one bug >found in the last version, does not mean it's really guaranteed to >be bug free. It's just: No one experienced one and no one discovered >one more. On the other side they do not implement much new features >every day and they do not have to care about hardware and market >changes every other day. > >I suspect a lot of trouble even for NASA's mission does come from >software bugs and who knows how many lifes can be accounted for >software bugs. Remembering the first launch of a Ariane-5 rocket? It >has been self destroyed because of nothing but a software bug. Or >what about the first NAVY combat ship w/ steering controlled by >Windows NT? Out of control by a blue screen... > >A developer can't always foresee the environment where his code will >later work in and that is even causing trouble. > >And again, errors and mistakes are human. And those who shout out >"why didn't you test enough" should ask themself, how much have THEY >contributed to the community? The hackers are contributing enough >(my view) and are really doing a good job. > >I do not care about HOW MANY bugs a beta quality piece of software >does contain but what IMHO matters is the timeframe to FIX them and >the FreeBSD project and other OS communities are good in that. > >Greetings, > >Volker >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Sorry to be dense but what does MFCing mean. I have googled for it but can find nothing that explains it. Thanks, Steve -- "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Ben Franklin) "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." (Thomas Jefferson)
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