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Date:      Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:35:57 +0200
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Brian Somers <brian@freebsd-services.com>
Cc:        Garrett Wollman <wollman@lcs.mit.edu>, "J. Mallett" <jmallett@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_descrip.c kern_exec.c src/sys/sys filedesc.h 
Message-ID:  <11657.1019216157@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:25:12 BST." <200204191125.g3JBPCSg072782@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> 

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In message <200204191125.g3JBPCSg072782@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>, Brian Somers wri
tes:

>I agree with Garrett.  This change is *very* broken.
>
>[...]
>
>Agreed, a program that does this is broken, but I believe the program 
>needs to be fixed, not the kernel.

While I agree that this change is not quite orthodox, I don't think
we can educate the masses of lousy programmers out there to not
do stupid things any time soon.

I can't think of any programs that will break as a result of this,
in particular I cannot think of any setuid programs which it will
break.

OpenBSD has done this for a couple of years, and that hasn't rid us
of Theo so it obviously is not a total catastrophy.

Finally, since this has not been discussed on any lists, I would
expect this to be in reponse to some tangible threat, (most likely
somewhere in ports ?)  so we probably don't have much of a choice
anyway.

So can we avoid giving our security-officer a hard time for doing
his job ?  Please ?

Thankyou!

-- 
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