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Date:      Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:12:05 +0100 (CET)
From:      Maarten van Schie <AnEra@dds.nl>
To:        David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Strange latency? Was: 4.1.1-Stable 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0011050248530.235-100000@oT.o8.com>
In-Reply-To: <200011050146.eA51k6S89790@grumpy.dyndns.org>

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On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, David Kelly wrote:

> Maarten van Schie writes:
> > I must say at first that I don't like the way I people are treating me
> > inhere. It may be the words I use to tell things but I think I made clear
> > what my point was and still is.
> 
> Of what you are describing right now, I'd say the data you are 
> providing is thin. Hard to help with little to go on.

Thin since it's everything I can tell at this moment.

> 
> > My system was running smoothly before releng4 went into 4.2-BETA status,
> > was indeed.
> > As soon as I did build 4.2-B it all began, Pine and BitchX, as far as I
> > can see now are the only ones affected with the problem on my box, are
> > showing dificulties with their startup procedure.
> > In other words, they need about several minutes to get up and running.
> 
> Pine, the email client? BitchX, has something to do with IRC? 

Yes, that's right.

> 
> Classically when a network application takes a long time to start its
> doing DNS lookups that are failing, timing out, rolling over to your
> next DNS server, etc. About 90 seconds per timeout. What do you have in 
> /etc/resolv.conf? What is your hostname and how is it defined in 

The only ones in there are the 2(NS1 and NS2 I believe) provided by my
ISP, in their respective order.                

> /etc/hosts and/or the DNS server? 

/etc/resolve.conf:

oT# cat /etc/resolv.conf
domain  o8.com
nameserver      195.86.58.21
nameserver      195.86.58.3

(o8.com is a nonexistent domain)

I tried using it with and without the domain line, but without succes.

/etc/hosts:

# $FreeBSD: src/etc/hosts,v 1.11.2.1 2000/08/18 18:29:19 ume Exp $
#
# Host Database
# This file should contain the addresses and aliases
# for local hosts that share this file.
# In the presence of the domain name service or NIS, this file may
# not be consulted at all; see /etc/host.conf for the resolution order.
#
#
::1                     localhost
127.0.0.1               localhost
#
# Imaginary network.
192.168.1.1             gateway
192.168.1.2             jovasco1
192.168.1.5             oT
192.168.1.10            aapieAMD
192.168.1.11            aapieP
192.168.1.14            jovasco2
192.168.1.15            jetdirect

#10.0.0.2               myname.my.domain myname
#10.0.0.3               myfriend.my.domain myfriend
#
# According to RFC 1918, you can use the following IP networks for
# private nets which will never be connected to the Internet:
#
#       10.0.0.0        -   10.255.255.255
#       172.16.0.0      -   172.31.255.255
#       192.168.0.0     -   192.168.255.255
#
# In case you want to be able to connect to the Internet, you need
# real official assigned numbers.  PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not try
# to invent your own network numbers but instead get one from your
# network provider (if any) or from the Internet Registry (ftp to
# rs.internic.net, directory `/templates').
#

Thisone I tried with and without my own host in it, but again without any
succes.


Hmm, I just recall a, what I thought to be, minor oddity from log_in_vain
and found out that starting Pine gives me the following output(without
any other network traffic from and to my box):

Nov  5 02:50:17 oT /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 192.168.1.5:1424
from 195.86.58.3:53
Nov  5 02:50:22 oT /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 192.168.1.5:1425
from 195.86.58.3:53
Nov  5 02:50:28 oT /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 192.168.1.5:1426
from 195.86.58.3:53
Nov  5 02:50:52 oT /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 192.168.1.5:1429
from 195.86.58.3:53
Nov  5 02:50:57 oT /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 192.168.1.5:1430
from 195.86.58.3:53
Nov  5 02:51:04 oT /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 192.168.1.5:1431
from 195.86.58.3:53
Nov  5 02:51:29 oT /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 192.168.1.5:1434
from 195.86.58.3:53
Nov  5 02:51:34 oT /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 192.168.1.5:1435
from 195.86.58.3:53
Nov  5 02:51:36 oT /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 192.168.1.5:1436
from 195.86.58.3:53
Nov  5 02:52:03 oT /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 192.168.1.5:1439
from 195.86.58.3:53
Nov  5 02:52:07 oT /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 192.168.1.5:1440
from 195.86.58.3:53
Nov  5 02:52:13 oT /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 192.168.1.5:1441
from 195.86.58.3:53

The DNS server you see is the secondary one.

The files mentioned did not change in the last 5 weeks or something.

Maarten.



> 
> If its DNS, then its most likely the apps are looking up the hostname to
> get your IP address(es). Else they are looking up servers to connect to.
> 
> 
> --
> David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net
> =====================================================================
> The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
> capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.
> 
> 




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