Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:19:15 +1000 From: "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au> To: "leegold" <goldtech@worldpost.com> Cc: <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: new books, changing my pt. of view Message-ID: <027801bffcf9$9c8bd810$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER> References: <DBB3921EFE2AD211A81500A0C9B5FE760579452C@msg04.scana.com> <06a801bffc9d$73c1a9c0$1600010a@pmr.com> <016801bffcbb$68385770$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER> <002b01bffce2$f414de40$0adf7ad1@beefstew> <025001bffcf1$e03e4b40$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER> <001b01bffcf4
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/me just want um big stick to beat propellorheads who write stuff in martian into submission .... Newbies Union sounded like a good way to achieve it :) tables definitely gotta be octagonal so the square knights of the round table won't fit !!!!! Only position I want is the "union heavy" because they get to collect all the money and leave town with it, so dunno how poor treasurer gets enough to buy fancy mobo's then. Wet bar sounds good though, as long as there's plenty Glenfiddich > Are you sure you want a "Union". How about a consortium? What's a > consortium? What shape should the tables be? I say semi-circular. I also > want to be the treasurer - there's this nice ABIT dual celeron mobo I've > been hankering for - we need this for research. I also want a wet bar. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Doug Young <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au> > To: leegold <goldtech@worldpost.com> > Cc: <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 10:23 PM > Subject: Re: new books, changing my pt. of view > > > > > I had to use instructions from five web sites and piece it together when > I > > > attempted my first install some months ago plus fill in the blanks from > > the > > > mail and newsgroups. > > > > Seems thats the way things are done in open source circles .... maybe if > > enough > > of us newbie types made a lot more noise someone might listen. Hey you've > > just > > given me an idea .... what say we form a "FreeBSD Newbie Union" to press > the > > "powers that be" for better working conditions ?? > > > > This has been the pattern for learning how to do most > > > things. In a mission critical situation ( and of course I can only tread > > > water re FreeBSD at this point ) I would say use the brilliantly > > documented > > > stuff all things being equal. > > > > I come across a heap of associates in general business consulting circles > > who are, like me, quite impressed with the way FreeBSD systems just > running > > with nary an illegal act / fatal exception / GPF / BSOD / etc, but as soon > > as some unfamiliar application is required the typical difficulty in > > figuring it out plus the time pressures involved in most businesses tends > to > > force a move to some other O/S, usually a product of our comrades from > > Redmond. Thankfully I've got a fairly loyal & open-minded mob of clients > who > > manage to muddle by for whatever time it takes me to sort some solution > out > > in FreeBSD, but not everyone has this luxury. > > > > > > I have found - and I feel "funny" saying this, but, many ( SOME ) > > brilliant > > > Unix admins. - they are....individualists. Some are hard for me to deal > > > with. Even the ones in official teaching positions sometimes are > > eccentric. > > > But I unabashedly pick their brains if I can. > > > > I think eccentricity is part of geekship, and even more so in academia. We > > can probably live with that as long as the aforesaid eccentric ones > refrain > > from writing stuff in whatever weird language they learned on their home > > planet and stuck to "proper" english (like what regular folk use). Better > > still, the "FreeBSD Newbies Union" should insist that ALL documentation be > > prepared by one of their members. > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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