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Date:      Mon, 25 Sep 1995 08:44:48 +0100 (MET)
From:      guido@spooky.lss.cp.philips.com (Guido van Rooij)
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ANNOUNCE: ComOS 3.1.4 released for PortMaster (fwd)
Message-ID:  <m0sx8DY-000HneC@spooky.lss.cp.philips.com>

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This came up in a discussion about what OS'es to support
on the Livingstone PM mailing list.

-Guido

Elya Kurktchi wrote:
> From livingston.com!owner-portmaster-users Sun Sep 24 15:03:33 1995
> Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 06:53:12 -0700
> From: Elya Kurktchi <elya@INETWORLD.NET>
> Message-Id: <199509241353.GAA26313@inet1.inetworld.net>
> To: portmaster-users@livingston.com
> Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ComOS 3.1.4 released for PortMaster
> Sender: owner-portmaster-users@livingston.com
> Precedence: bulk
> Reply-To: Elya Kurktchi <elya@INETWORLD.NET>
> 
> 
> At 12:54 AM 9/24/95 -0700, Ron Pinz wrote:
> >>Once upon a time Chris B. Wilson, VectorNet shaped the electrons to say...
> >>>Give them the hint and set the password to "PortItToBSDAlready!" :)
> >>
> >
> >For those of you not capable of running PMConsole today, INVEST IN A REAL
> >OS!  It is youring whining, bitching, and complaining detracting from the
> >usefulness of this mailing list.
> 
> Well, for some reason a $2K pentium running freebsd with 64MB of RAM outperforms
> a $35K Sparc20/71 with 512MB of RAM and best of all, you get to run real bsd
> unix rather than solaris.  Isn't that shocking?  That means that I can spend
> $33K on my customers, buying more modems and lines and offering more people
> a job then wasting it on a machine that may have a supported os, but stinks
> when it comes to doing the real job.  I hate PC's personally, but after working
> with crays and bleeding-edge desktop workstations, there seems to be some use
> to them.  SGI is a great platform and it has an unsupported OS, but it can
> waste a SUN anytime, and in the real world case, so can a pentium running unix.
> 
> >>People wanted PMconsole for Linux - that is in beta.
> >
> >I would be curious to know the installed base of PM equipment, where the
> >customers do not have a supported OS available.  Livinston has been
> >supporting the majority of the commercial OS' (non-intel based) for years!
> 
> Quite a bit now.  Again why waste so much money when an intel based machine
> can do the job.  Note for an ISP, we want the job done with as little money
> as possible so that we can make a profit, not waste it all on equipment.
> 
> Elya
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Elya S. Kurktchi               Simply Internet
> Vice President-Systems Admin   7841 Balboa Avenue, Suite 101
> elya@inetworld.net             San Diego, CA  92111
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 




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