Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:49:16 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Cc: FreeBSD Arch <arch@freebsd.org>, Marcel Moolenaar <xcllnt@mac.com>, Gordon Tetlow <gordon@tetlows.org> Subject: Re: On errno Message-ID: <20090402114916.170547o692pg252c@webmail.leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <4915.1238655116@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <4915.1238655116@critter.freebsd.dk>
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Quoting Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> (from Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:51:56 +0000): > In message <20090402084616.19846py8s75ogp44@webmail.leidinger.net>, > Alexander Leidinger writes: > >> I agree with your general opinion about i18n and think that it is not >> a matter of workforce, it's a matter of feasability. As soon as we >> have the infrastructure, translations will show up "soonish". It's not >> "if", it's "when". > > And once the novelty has worn off, we are left, as so many other > operating systems, with at best 70% translation into each language. If I adapt your reasoning to our docs, we need to delete all our translations and only keep the english one. If you are pissed off by the missing 30%, submit a patch or stick with english. That's an adaption of what we tell to people when they complain about missing stuff in unmaintained areas of src/ports. Alternatively we can disconnect languages from the system if we think there's not enough coverage. Above you also average the interest over all languages, an generalization which doesn't hold, see below. You assume we need to ship with 100% coverage in all languages. For a person which only uses 40% of one specific language, and this 40% are covered by 100%, it does not matter. If those 40% are a major part to allow to earn a person an income to feed childs and the relative other, great. Note, people which set their LANG to something else already get only a xx% translated system, e.g. KDE/GNOME are displaying a lot of stuff in other languages, but stuff which is comming from FreeBSD itself is in english, so we have the situation you describe already and users are used to it (don't tell me this does not apply because we only program an OS, it applies, as for an user it does not matter what we program, _he_ is using a complete system consisting of an OS and other stuff, not only the OS without anything else). They do their best, they enjoy their native language where it is available and try to handle english when it is not available. At some point I expect that we have some strong languages, and some not so strong languages. Which ones are which and how many languages we would have... I assume the trends regarding this for the handbook can give a hint. Bye, Alexander. -- In California they don't throw their garbage away -- they make it into television shows. -- Woody Allen, "Annie Hall" http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137
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