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Date:      Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:24:06 -0600 (MDT)
From:      ML Duke <mlduke@concentric.net>
To:        Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: Unix skills at work
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10108031223450.706-100000@mlduke.concentric.net>
In-Reply-To: <005301c11a52$3880f360$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>

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This is all the reply this one is worth.

Duke



On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:21:38 -0700
> From: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
> To: ML Duke <mlduke@concentric.net>, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: RE: Unix skills at work
> 
> Boy, this guy is what Scott Adams modeled Wally on in Dilbert.
> On one hand he says:
> 
> >Ah, well... it seems like the really serious systems, they leave
> >to me and don't bother me about it
> 
> and on the other he says:
> 
> >Philosophically, they're paying me a
> >large amount of money to accomplish nothing beneficial in the long
> >run.
> 
> That's the first time I've heard administration on "the really serious
> systems" called "nothing beneficial in the long run"
> 
> I think that most likely his superiors have just thrown up their hands
> and decided that here's a guy who is valuable enough to keep around
> because he knows some things very, very well, but he is never going to
> transcend beyond that.  He wants to pigeonholed and they have indulged
> him.  No wonder he is working in an enterprise environment, that's the
> only kind of environment that is large enough to have little cubbyholes
> here and there that need people stuffed into.
> 
> The linotype operator story is an excuse.  IT administration isn't a
> repetitive clerical job.  All your seeing here is a guy that has a lot
> of experience that could be very valuable to everyone around him if
> he just made a little effort to present it well - who has turned his
> back to his organization and is selfishly unwilling to share it.  Talk
> about deserving the chance to make the same mistakes - did he ever ask
> anyone if they wanted to have that chance?
> 
> I don't see interesting symmetry here - I just see someone who is
> representative of how depressing it can be made to be if your goal is
> to make it depressing.  What a waste.
> 
> Ted Mittelstaedt                                       tedm@toybox.placo.com
> Author of:                           The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
> Book website:                          http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com
> 
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of ML Duke
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:58 PM
> >To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
> >Subject: Unix skills at work
> >
> >
> >Hi all. I know a rather rather skilled Unix fella.
> >Recently asked him about his work. What he said follows.
> >Thought some of you might be interested in some views
> >of an engineer/admin who works within the enterprise
> >environment.
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> >Not much to say, really. It's work. Everyday, what weren't broken
> >gets upgraded and broken. Philosophically, they're paying me a
> >large amount of money to accomplish nothing beneficial in the long
> >run. But I've come to understand that this is the way most of our
> >educated professionals think. It is very clear, though, that
> >they don't understand syllogistic logic.  'Course, I ain't been
> >college educated, but I would have thought logic would be a
> >prerequisite to computer science. Then again, if I had the benefit
> >of an education, I might understand why it no longer applies.
> >
> >I am something of the problem child at (X-Company) -- I have
> >trouble getting with the "program" and staying on the "same
> >page." On one hand, I'm expected to think independently and be
> >"pro-active." On the other, I'm tolerated and guided because I
> >forget about the "vision" and cut straight to what works. They
> >find that an annoyance, since it's "old-fashioned" and indicates
> >a lack of innovative reasoning.
> >
> >In a way, though, it's worked out well. They tolerate me because
> >my systems don't break and they keep me away from the visionary
> >innovations because I can't get through my thick skull why they
> >want broken (err... 'scuse me) innovative systems.
> >
> >Ah, well... it seems like the really serious systems, they leave
> >to me and don't bother me about it -- and -- the pay checks have
> >always cleared the bank, so far. So I would have to say that this
> >is just another gig.
> >
> >I remember when the old linotype operators struggled with the
> >"new" qwerty keyboard. Most couldn't make the transition. At the
> >time, I couldn't understand why and figured it would never happen
> >to me. As it turns out, it has happened to me. I won't be able or
> >willing to make the transition to the new way of thinking.
> >Mostly, I think, because I don't like it, don't respect it and
> >have been there, done it. Still, it's their time in the sun and
> >mine has passed -- they deserve the chance to repeat the same
> >mistakes as I did.
> >
> >There is truly an interesting symmetry in all this.
> >
> >anonymous
> >
> >
> >
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> 
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