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Date:      Sat, 7 Sep 2013 21:07:00 +0400
From:      Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To:        Bryan Venteicher <bryanv@freebsd.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r255323 - in head/sys: amd64/conf i386/conf
Message-ID:  <20130907170700.GB3796@zxy.spb.ru>
In-Reply-To: <CAGaYwLcibUVY1C8BMUjRart75HBNMu4W-ddjSK5pHb3JYhf1Gg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 11:52:42AM -0500, Bryan Venteicher wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 03:46:11PM -0500, Bryan Venteicher wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Bryan Venteicher <bryanv@freebsd.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Author: bryanv
> > > > Date: Fri Sep  6 20:24:21 2013
> > > > New Revision: 255323
> > > > URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/255323
> > > >
> > > > Log:
> > > >   Add vmx device to the i386 and amd64 NOTES files
> > > >
> > > >
> > > FWIW - I'm on the fence about adding vmx to GENERIC for 10.0. IIRC,
> > > VMware's vmxnet3 driver returns BUS_PROBE_VENDOR so the two drivers
> > should
> > > coexist. This is assuming VMware updates the driver for 10 ... which I'm
> > > guessing isn't likely and was a large reason I added this driver in the
> > > first place.
> >
> > Why we don't switch (in 10.0) to minimal GENERIC and all driver loaded
> > as modules (/boot/loader.conf)? This is reduce memory (by easy unloading
> > unneed
> > drivers/modules), space (by reducing GENERIC+symbols size about 100M),
> > space on install media too (100M + compressed 100M), build time (not
> > need to build some modules twice) and add ability to easy
> > update/bugfix modules w/o reboot.
> >
> > After last updates to bootloader loading many modules enought fast.
> >
> I already switched (for me) to this setup and it's fine for me.
> >
> 
> The holy grail would be for the loader to automatically detect and load
> what is needed/supported, but this has been talked and beaten to death in
> the past.

No-no, not automatically detect. Just load all bundle of modules,
cureently staticly compiled in GENERIC as individual modules.
Just /boot/loader.conf of 100 lines module_load="yes".



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