Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:27:24 -0400 From: "James Gill" <gill@topsecret.net> To: "Tom Brown" <tomb@securify.com>, "'andrewr'" <andrewr@slack.net> Cc: "'freebsd-security@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: "Secure-FreeBSD" Idea Message-ID: <NDBBJDFMIMOCFNNCEKADGEENCOAA.gill@topsecret.net> In-Reply-To: <01BEE4CB.26C21460@beetroot.securify.com>
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Wait, wasn't the NetBSD project kinda the same thing from day one? If we've got a sibling OS out there that is totally focused on security, then shouldn't we work together to make them more alike? I am just getting into this scene, but i was thinking of running NetBSD on a firewall and FreeBSD on a public server for both security and edutainment value. I digress... what's the feasability of comarketing the two OSes? I am not the most knowledgeable as to the whole concept and direction of FreeBSD, but perhaps fbsd could take a tack more aimed at what it seems to currently do well, large and powerful servers and nbsd take the hardened OS tack. TOGETHER WE COULD RULE THE WORLD! (or at least have root access) #i'm sure that *nobody* has *ever* thought of this before, huh? --gill > > I know exactly where this is going and you're quite right. > If 'we' the contributors did it then it would take time out > of our schedules. > > But this would best be marketed by walnut creek, they > should pay for it to happen and launch it as another > packaged item, you know the kind of thing 'nice bunch of > CD's with some flashy graphics'. I recon it would be a > sound investment and could if pushed correctly sell by the > bucket load. > > Tom > > ---------- > From: andrewr > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 6:57 AM > To: Tom Brown > Cc: 'freebsd-security@freebsd.org' > Subject: Re: "Secure-FreeBSD" Idea > > > I believe myself as well as a few others have had this idea and, > basically, when we attempted to start such a project up, > many people said > "Yah,sure Id help"...but the bottom line is, we're all too busy ;) > > Andrew > > On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Tom Brown wrote: > > > HI, > > > > Just come back from "websec" which was a bit dull, but I > did get the feeling whilst fighting off the sleep that > there is a really good opening for a quality secure O/S. > > > > Now realistically all this would have to be is a really > anal installation process, forcing the user to positively > select services such as ftp,telnet, sendmail etc. So if > you don't select anything, you can't much. It would also > have carefully set UMASKS and probably come with some easy > way to get the user to set-up tripwire and ipfw for example. > > > > I suspect that most of the readers of this list spend a > fair amount of time going through the same laborious > process of tying down each server they built. How about we > pools this vast collection of procedures together and try > to build some kind of a security release. We all know (well > at least I hope we do!) what a solid O/S FreeBSD is, > wouldn't this be the ideal opportunity, to push the OS > further into the public eye? > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message
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