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Date:      Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:10:22 -0500
From:      Graeme Tait <graeme@echidna.com>
To:        Joe Gleason <clash@tasam.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Motherboard with onboard scsi
Message-ID:  <368A6C8E.4528@echidna.com>
References:  <010501be340d$7f0f4940$f1effccd@bug.tasam.com>

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Joe Gleason wrote:
> 
> I am looking at motherboards with on board scsi for a server I am building.
> 
> On the Asus page for the P2B-DS it lists:
> Adaptec ® AIC 7890 & 3860 80MB/s Ultra2 Wide SCSI Onboard (AIC 3860 Optional)
> 
> Most other motherboards I see (Tyan, IWill, Supermico)
> Have only either a AIC7890 or AIC7895 with no mention of 3860


The 3680 transceiver allows there to be two high speed buses, one fast-wide, one 
ultra-2 LVD. There are actually 3 SCSI connectors on the Asus P2B-S motherboards 
I have: one 50-pin fast SCSI, one 68-pin fast-wide, one 68-pin ultra-2 LVD.

My understanding is that without this chip and using the 7890, if you mix 
fast-wide and ultra-2 LVD devices on the wide SCSI bus, the bus collapses to 
fast-wide mode, and LVD (low-voltage differential) devices are forced to switch 
to single-ended mode, transferring at 40MB/s.

With the 3860, you have two separate busses, one for fast-wide devices at 
40MB/s, one for ultra-2 LVD devices at 80MB/s (in 16-bit mode).

Obviously this only matters if you intend to use ultra-2 LVD devices.

The LVD bus also supports longer cable lengths, although the cabling I received 
with the Asus P2B-S board provides for internal LVD devices only. The cable for 
the fast-wide bus does provide an external wide SCSI connector.


> What is the difference between 7890 and 7895?


This I don't know.
You might want to peruse Adaptec's website.


-- 
Graeme Tait - Echidna


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