Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:18:13 -0400 From: "chromexa@ovis.net" <chromexa@ovis.net> To: mbilekic@yahoo.co.uk, hackers@freebsd.org, chat@freebsd.org Cc: chromexa@ovis.net Subject: RE: Why did FreeBSD fail? Message-ID: <294010-220028220121813894@M2W062.mail2web.com>
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Original Message: ----------------- From: Mosko Bilekic mbilekic@yahoo.co.uk Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:39:08 +0100 (BST) To: hackers@freebsd.org, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Why did FreeBSD fail? Gentlemen, it's time to explain why FreeBSD is such a failure. In the following lines, David O'Brien explains why 5.0 is such a POS... <@motminh> -current is a fucking piece of shit right now. <@Keltia> hi motminh < gordont> motminh: no, it's just shitty for you, I just updated fine <@motminh> gordont: try using mucho scsi disks + IPFW <@motminh> gordont: isp(4) is shit. <@motminh> gordont: Oh, and on an SMP box <@motminh> gordont: we haven't been stable since June 27th (just before ipfw2 hit). * motminh *just* got a ffs block not freed panic with an hour old kernel. < gordont> motminh: hmm, well I can't attest for isp or ipfw, but my smp box works fine <@motminh> gordont: if I use an isp controller I can't even make it to single user <@motminh> gordont: you have a single ide disk in it? <@motminh> gordont: please do. <@motminh> gordont: we have noone (few) stress testing -current right now. <@motminh> for many the test is a basic PC and "make world". < gordont> motminh: I have to get FC down to my EMC box first though <@motminh> I hear more and more developers that only have a -current shitbox to make sure something compiles that was developed on -stable before they commit it to -current. < gordont> motminh: well, I'm proud to say my desktop at work is running -CURRENT <@motminh> Keltia: awake? <@Keltia> motminh: yes <@motminh> Keltia: are you running -current on your SMP box? <@Keltia> motminh: I'm afraid not <@motminh> Keltia: have you even seen the "launching CPU #1" message get fucked up in the middle of SCSI probe output? <@Keltia> motminh: I think I have seen it yes <@motminh> anordby: you have to `make depend' first. <@motminh> anordby: 1/2 ass commits broke building kernels <@anordby> motminh: hrrm ok <@anordby> motminh: i have a -current testing box that i intend to make rebuild world+kernel every night.. automatically from pxe installs. :) <@Keltia> motminh: still there ? <@motminh> 7ep <@motminh> Keltia: my box hasn't been stable enough <@motminh> Keltia: the /bin/sh bug that fubar'ed |'s kept me from build many ports <@Keltia> motminh: when you'll be able to try gcc33, see my message in -current --------------------------------- As you see, -CURRENT has been totally broken for almost two months now. And don't get me started on -STABLE. FreeBSD 4.x is such a joke... enterprise ready my ass! The other big problem that the FreeBSD project faces is that a lot of developers prefer to waste time flaming instead of coding. Mike Smith knew that, that's why he left. Jordan Hubbard is an asshole btw. As always, some greetings... Juli Mallett, sorry for the typo :) David O'Brien, you're a great hacker, but a real asshole Matt Dillon, I had a lot of respect for you until you replied to the Pythonstein troll, you SUCK Greg Lehey, MORON, don't feed the trolls! Alfred Perlstein, drunktard Hiten Pandya, IMBECILE Bosko Milekic, if I ever meet you, I'll kick your ass! Paul Saab, asshole Bill Fumerola, FUCK YOU Will Andrews, I suggest you join a real project Diane Bruce, the reason I never mentioned you is that you're so fucking ugly I felt sorry for you :) Yours, Mosko __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message Uggh, folks does it really help us with anything to fall to the level of personal insults? I mean I doubt projects fail because someone thinks someone else is ugly. I might buy "Uh, you look like such a scary science fiction monster no could work with you..." but that's pushing it. It would be nice to hear good reasons why something works or doesn't. Not page after page of personl invective. Have Fun, Sends Steve -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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