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Date:      Wed, 23 May 2018 11:14:59 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
To:        Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
Cc:        Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, Sean Bruno <sbruno@freebsd.org>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r333388 - in head: . share/man/man4 sys/conf sys/dev/nxge sys/modules sys/modules/nxge tools/kerneldoc/subsys tools/tools tools/tools/nxge usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share
Message-ID:  <201805231814.w4NIExZ9036362@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
In-Reply-To: <20180523180840.GA27444@lonesome.com>

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> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:41:17AM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> > If end of sales and support is enough to remove 10g driver from the kernel,
> > can we please delete all 10Mbit, 100Mbit 10+ year old drivers from the kernel?
> 
> Depends on how many existing users we want to screw over.  Not everyone
> replaces all their hardware every 2 years, folks.

And some of us buy 2 year old hardware because it is cheap,
and serves our needs just fine.   Even 8 year old servers
make usable machines today.

> The difference is that the Exar chips failed in the marketplace; very
> few seem to have made it out into the wild.
> 
> Given, 10Mbit-only things are way past their sell-by date.

Do we even have any 10Mbit only drivers?  I think that all the
10mbit drivers also support 100mbit devices, but maybe there
are some odd cases I cant remeber.

I do agree that we need to be very carefull about killing "dead wood",
and have advocated proper notice as a first order to helping with that.

I think we also need to be able to back track if we find we have
made a mistake.

-- 
Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org



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