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Date:      Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:53:24 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC <softweyr@xmission.com>
To:        peter@netplex.com.au (Peter Wemm)
Cc:        jkh@time.cdrom.com, ady@warpnet.ro, softweyr@xmission.com, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Using MD5 insted of DES for passwd ecnryption
Message-ID:  <199804201953.NAA15966@xmission.xmission.com>
In-Reply-To: <199804201324.VAA04518@spinner.netplex.com.au> from "Peter Wemm" at Apr 20, 98 09:24:27 pm

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Peter Wemm pointed out:
> Static linking really does restrict some of the creative things that can be
> done with dynamic linking.  It would fix the two different versions of init
> for starters...  But that'd mean creating a /lib (and /libexec/ld.so) and
> putting a selection of shared libs in there.  As long as ld.so was robust
> enough to work without /var/run/ld.so.cache, this would not be a problem.
> Putting a selection (say 2MB) of shared libs in /lib would probably cut the
> 9.5MB of /bin+/sbin to 3MB tops, leaving an overall root fs space saving.
> But we'd also be able to use things like PAM (heaven forbid), runtime 
> selection of gethostbyname() backends (files,DNS,NIS,whatever).  The 
> removal of the files,dns,nis stuff (into a seperate library each) could 
> save overall libc.so size. Adding NIS+ support would be as simple as 
> adding one line to a file and everything could support it automatically 
> without relinking etc.  Same thing for new crypt routines for passwd stuff.
> 
> However, the thought of having ld.so on / and a dynamic sh and init seems
> to make some people break out into a cold sweat...

Sounds like the overall win might make it worthwhile, over in -current
land.  This would be a big win for making small, embedded FreeBSD
systems as well.  ;^)


-- 
          "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                       Softweyr LLC
http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr                       softweyr@xmission.com

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