Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:32:53 +0000 From: Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle Message-ID: <CADWvR2gxbHUA1VDm%2BtfxrumL1KQ8w1OEHSK%2B3FJ_mmb7hpdhgw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAF-QHFXubf_0hFLbp1quoUTJnb65eLt4-=0DAgAgb527yGGBsg@mail.gmail.com> References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1112211415580.19710@kozubik.com> <1326756727.23485.10.camel@Arawn> <4F14BAA7.9070707@freebsd.org> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1201161606230.19710@kozubik.com> <20120117010239.GA29529@richh-imac.office.boxdice.com.au> <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201171931120.21214@oreo.lan> <jf3u0f$8pv$1@dough.gmane.org> <CADWvR2hqM6KEXqb7HY2K6AenOuDL4r0=L_b__G96xzX9-0dwWw@mail.gmail.com> <CAF-QHFXubf_0hFLbp1quoUTJnb65eLt4-=0DAgAgb527yGGBsg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 17 January 2012 14:20, Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org> wrote: > On 17 January 2012 14:49, Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk> wrote: >> On 17 January 2012 13:44, Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org> wrote: >>> On 17/01/2012 07:32, Atom Smasher wrote: >>>> >>>> what percentage of linux devs are on salary to develop linux? >>> >>> Apparently, 3/4: http://apcmag.com/linux-now-75-corporate.htm >> >> Actually, you're misrepresenting the facts: according to the headline, >> 75% of the code came from paid developers, *not* 75% of developers are >> paid... See the difference?.. > > Yes, you're correct. Actually, I don't think it's cash that's the problem. I think it is more to do with the lack of common goal: the way that releases are perceived, at least by me, are that a bunch of people "play" in current then at some point someone decides to take a "cut" of the current branch and call it a release then work toward making that "release" passable as stable. To illustrate that, I cannot find anywhere on the .org website what core@ see the desirable features of 10.0 to be, or what the committers are working toward. It seems that the "bazaar" model of development is at its worst here: everyone is doing their own thing and at some point someone decides to call it a day and make a release, nobody cares for what they have already done, but only what they want to do in the future, non-committer patches go ignored (no, I don't have a reference) which discourages end-user contribution... I'm very happy to be shown wrong here, btw!.. -- Igor M. :-)
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