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Date:      Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:15:23 -0500
From:      Branson Matheson <Branson.Matheson@FergInc.com>
To:        Matthew McGehrin <matthew@subnetmask.net>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: uptimes, Woo Hoo
Message-ID:  <19991231141523.B427@belmakor.Ferguson.com>
In-Reply-To: <19991231190325.860CB10F4F@quake3.idgames.com>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.01.9912311340410.3143-100000@phoenix.aye.net> <19991231190325.860CB10F4F@quake3.idgames.com>

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On Fri, Dec 31, 1999 at 02:02:59PM -0500,Matthew McGehrin did mutter:
> On 31 Dec 99, at 13:53, Barrett Richardson wrote:
> 
> > Couldn't resist taking a picture of my uptimes (in case they fall
> > victim to a power outage). The Webserver and Shell Server are lower
> > than the others because of Stupid Admin Tricks.
> > Mailserver
> >  1:32PM  up 324 days, 12:23, 8 users, load averages: 0.15, 0.29, 0.29
> 
> High 'uptimes' are cool i guess, but not from an administrative 
> stand point. So if you reboot your machine, and something doesnt 
> work, you have 324 days of backtracking to figure out what was
> changed.

 Ermmm... 

 You _should_ be able to duplicate the conditions up to a point for
 any service that is started at boot time .. especially something in
 /etc/rc.local. So rebooting is not that necessary. Now if you change
 something basic to the system ( amd, /bin/sh, etc ) you should test
 it. If you change something that _could_ be basic to the system (
 perl ) you might consider at least testing the scripts that are
 called at boot time.

 But rebooting once a month just to make sure won't work in this
 production environment.. so we are just careful about what we
 change.. and test the hell outta it too ;-)

 kheva% uptime
 2:25PM  up 299 days, 15:07, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
 kheva% uname -a
 FreeBSD kheva 3.1-19990219-STABLE

 Happy New year!

  - branson

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