Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 13:04:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> To: Diane Bruce <db@db.net> Cc: "A. Wilcox" <AWilcox@Wilcox-Tech.com>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of fortune(6) Message-ID: <201711242104.vAOL445P097106@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <20171124204952.GA1497@night.db.net>
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> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 02:40:42PM -0600, A. Wilcox wrote:
> > On 24/11/17 13:19, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > Pardon me, but it's 2017 and the 4.3BSD system index isn't an immutable bible.
> > >
> > > As a general push to packaging things in general, turning fortune into
> > > a package seems like some low hanging fruit.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -adrian
> >
> >
> > This, so much this. Why is it so controversial to put the thing in a
> > package? Why do people want so badly to just remove it? Why wasn't it
> > discussed about putting it in a package?
>
> Let's bring back badblocks too while we are at it.
Its badsect(8) and it has valid uses, even today. You can get ufs/ffs
drives that develope a bad block, you can fix the immediate issue with
badsect and a fsck, you loose a file.
I have a 500G drive that has a spot that gets an error, smart flags
it as a pending relocation sector, when I back up and wipe the drive
to clear the pending hoping it well relocate it the drive decides hey,
I wrote and now read back that data so it is not bad, so puts it back
in the good sectors. Repeat a few times and you quickly learn to use
badsect t just map that sector out and let UFS never use it again.
Now I have this ufs drive... if I stick it on a 12.x current system
it is probalby not gona like my badsect(8) that I have done and I
am unclear as what may happen.
And once again no one followed commiters guide 17.4 even though I
pointed out we have a deprication procedure...
>
> >
> > It seems like if, instead of *deleting* things, they were just moved to
> > packages, probably nobody would have complained. Or at least, it would
> > have been fewer people (I wouldn't have), and the complaints would have
> > been lighter ("you could have told me" vs "how dare you").
> >
> > Live and learn. And please, package it. ALL of it.
>
> Yes. Please.
>
> >
> > --arw
> >
> > --
> > A. Wilcox (awilfox)
> > Open-source programmer (C, C++, Python)
> > https://code.foxkit.us/u/awilfox/
> >
>
>
> Diane Bruce
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