Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:47:48 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm <andreas@klemm.gtn.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Make this a relese coordinator decision (was Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued) Message-ID: <19970803214748.48500@klemm.gtn.com> In-Reply-To: <2920.870634837@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sun, Aug 03, 1997 at 12:00:37PM -0700 References: <199708031339.GAA01694@blimp.mimi.com> <2920.870634837@time.cdrom.com>
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On Sun, Aug 03, 1997 at 12:00:37PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> To put it another way, if something as minor as a new version of TCL
> going in screws up the ports collection this badly then we've already
> established that it's a frail mechanism in the face of changes in the
> base OS and we should no longer try and bend that mechanism to such an
> extent. TCL is just the tip of the iceberg where changes to -current
> are concerned, and trying to track multiple architectures (each of
> which needing its own package collection and potentially some ports
> changes) is only going to add to the misery. Let's stop trying to
> chase the moving train here, folks - Satoshi's decision was absolutely
> the right thing to do, even if for the "wrong" reasons! ;-)
You know Jordan, that usually I totally agree with you, but here
I hardly can ;-)
You were right and I wouldnīt complain, if we would have to deal
with basic changes in the kernel, or in another packages, that
break something, but bring further improvements, that cant be
achieved using a less radical way.
But here we speak of a tool that doesnīt necessarily belong
into the basic system and could be put into the ports collection
like all the others tcl / tk versions, that arenīt backward
compatible to each other.
Instead of this you insist in keeping this tools within
the basic system and call that something like necessary
progress.
Jordan, keeping -current compatible to the ports collection
doesnīt necessarily mean a step backward for the progress of
-current.
Put tcl 8.0 into the ports collection and -current is as
-current as it was before, but we would get a usable ports
collection for current as well.
See my mail in "core".
I think the lastly drawn decision to integrate tcl 8.0
into -current wasnīt
a) well thought
b) discussed very well with the other core team
members, especially with Satoshi
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