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Date:      Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:07:47 +1100
From:      Benno Rice <benno@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Matt Johnson <matt@damnsw.net>
Cc:        freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: the abi & hardware support
Message-ID:  <20010109120747.D84860@rafe.jeamland.net>
In-Reply-To: <l03130300b67ff851a406@[24.95.8.9]>; from matt@damnsw.net on Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 06:12:12PM -0500
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On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 06:12:12PM -0500, Matt Johnson wrote:
> 
> >
> >> > I for one would very much like to see FreeBSD for both my Powermac G4 and
> >> > my 604e/200 UMAX machine.
> >
> >I would too. I think a NewWorld machine would be an ideal system  for
> >FreeBSD.
> >Even though hardware specs are tough to get, it sounds like a lot of other
> >projects have been able save a lot of time by looking at Apple's Open Source
> >projects, ie. MkLinux, and Darwin.
> >
> >-rory
> 
> 
> I'm not really up on the deal with FreeBSD and it's policy on borrowing
> code from NetBSD/OpenBSD...but they do have working bootable PowerPC Mac
> ports (which mostly focus on the G3 and up, but it does claim to support
> PCI based 604/604e Macs as well).  They seem to have drivers for most of
> the core hardware (IDE controller, USB keyboards and mice, CD/DVD drive,
> ethernet, etc.) which could probably be used at least as guides for the
> people writing the device driver code for the FBSD/ppc port.

And I plan to do that, when I get to that point.
FYI: You can now see what I'm up to at:
	http://people.freebsd.org/~benno/
 
> I definitely think you should support Macs.  As of now there exist plenty
> of people like me (people who own consumer-grade PowerPC Macs and like
> using Unix for a home system and whatnot) would definitely consider using
> such a port.

As I've previously stated, my aim in regards my involvement in the PowerPC
port is to support as much as I can.  I'm currently getting it up and
running on my iMac (G3), but then I'd like to go both towards the embedded
chips (Motorola's Sandpoint eval units and the like) and towards the higher
end (Apple's dual-G4 box and possibly even towards IBM's RS/6k boxes if I
can get my hands on them).

Note that all of this requires access to the hardware to make sure it all
works.  I've got people (thanks keichii =)) who are trying to convince
Motorola that it's in their interests to at least loan us a Sandpoint unit,
but if anyone who has contacts with any groups who could give us access to
such hardware, and that includes the Apple stuff, could get in contact with
me it would be hugely appreciated.

-- 
Benno Rice
benno@FreeBSD.org


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