Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 07:55:16 -0400 From: Joe Maloney <jmaloney@ixsystems.com> To: mueller6722@twc.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: drm / drm2 removal in 12 Message-ID: <CAFvkmYNtKiDjh6ak-K1BGuFxdbFOXk1bmxC9gyM_aURP7W1mSA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5b83cb32.1c69fb81.ee07c.812eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <CAPrugNr9wN63ANjTYzyrHRegr9KTk_OSTLfrt%2BhktCnfKX=_mg@mail.gmail.com> <20180824215302.ivfna55jtrtc5trg@freebsd480.station> <CAPrugNqV6k2QTuiLerAKLB_hV1hkZNi4MLNqKU7MtVnMhMfPQw@mail.gmail.com> <CANCZdfp2rf=5e-qTV=-4yFrLPugn0UhtYovXdesJWbRWAjdGTg@mail.gmail.com> <CALM2mEmJVqfeERTL4AWw7cY3YfPUY6TFw==1hzBqsDJNDde_Uw@mail.gmail.com> <CAPrugNqsqQds6tBzeQcA%2B5tD4xh%2Bi1Fef2ta8Qjf5E6LTxPq4Q@mail.gmail.com> <CALM2mEmyjKD5vQexvHfeZK0Jud7HpGSn3RspBqFq49TzrfcwNg@mail.gmail.com> <86k1oepbdr.fsf@next.des.no> <CALM2mE=T_uEVPVi7J%2BjA-8c89T46%2B9X5wk1Xo5C8EfQmKap9yw@mail.gmail.com> <CAECmPwuX31et58uQ%2BryY0sugBTFsHTr-Rynm0jy67siz=J5SzQ@mail.gmail.com> <CALM2mE=tL5mTA4PPjYXmxdgeZbZBJDPUqXkAC5LEo3QcwYF3CQ@mail.gmail.com> <180f8f99-5fa1-1411-59e6-856e3ebc370c@cameron.net> <CALM2mE=h-=0dPht02xQ86K%2BKypcVTB4ThUuB6LMQE%2BaUWcrtww@mail.gmail.com> <cdc72a29-745b-939e-a5ac-dc3693fa6b42@selasky.org> <CALM2mE=z-WcEJQnkmoS8k6V5YKLk-DORcFQGjTPJ8qULTF%2B3FQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAPQ4ffukL1WPBNDhrMWSgWFtp8=gifQkFG1=u_1jfaxGNC87rw@mail.gmail.com> <5b83cb32.1c69fb81.ee07c.812eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
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Thanks for the drm-next efforts. I could not, and would not be using FreeBSD without it. Joe Maloney On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 5:58 AM Thomas Mueller <mueller6722@twc.com> wrote: > Excerpt from Oliver Pinter: > > > Let's do some more step backwards, and see how the graphics driver > > developments works from the corporation side. > > They not bother about any of the BSDs, they focus only to Windows and > > Linux. If you want to use a recent (haha recent, something after 2014) > you > > are forced to use new drivers from linux. > > The fore/advantage on the Linux side are the zillions of corporately paid > > kernel developers. > > They can just focus on a new hw supports, on freebsd side, there are no > > corporately paid drm driver developer. Sadly. > > In linux word their internal KPI (try a Google for a "stable API > nonsense" > > words) moves so fastly, that porting of these drivers gets non trivial > > without a dedicated paid team. > > > If you want to change on this situation, try to learn for you could help > or > > send directed donations to freebsd foundation. ;) > > Linux and FreeBSD are not the only open-source OSes. > > There is also (Net, Open, DragonFly)BSD, Haiku, OpenIndiana and others. > > Maybe better would be for the hardware manufacturers to release more > general specifications that could be adapted to any OS, by the NetBSD > developers, Haiku developers, etc. Certainly not to ignore Linux. > > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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