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Date:      Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:38:09 +0000
From:      Jason Thomson <jason.thomson@mintel.co.uk>
To:        andrew@squiz.co.nz
Cc:        Frank Terhaar-Yonkers <fty@cisco.com>, tups@novobcs.ee, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: smtp "polling" thru a firewall
Message-ID:  <36791751.38AFB680@mintel.co.uk>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9812180215190.12626-100000@aniwa.sky>

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You can run uucp over TCP/IP.  I don't know how to set it up,  but here is a
pointer...

http://www.freebsd.org/info/uucp/uucp.info.Top.html


Andrew McNaughton wrote:

> This is not what ETRN does.  ETRN allows you to trigger an immediate queue
> run on the remote server, but the mail is not going to get sent to you via
> the existing connection. If you can't alias or proxy an external port
> through to your internal mail serve then you can't in general use smtp.
>
> There are of course ways to set up tunnels, such that you open a
> connection out to a machine which tunnels inbound connections in, but this
> probably is not consistent with the security policies you're trying to
> work with.
>
> Perhaps you could use uucp?  I don't know much about this.  It's mostly
> before my time.  I seem to remember seeing it suggested for this sort of
> situation though.
>
> Be wary of approaches based on pop/procmail.  You'll probably find someone
> who suggests it if you look around, but because it uses the mail headers
> rather than the SMTP envelope it behaves incorrectly.  eg most mailing
> lists, including the freebsd ones, do not have the recipient addresses in
> the headers.
>
> Andrew McNaughton
>
> On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Frank Terhaar-Yonkers wrote:
>
> > I understand.  But in my case I cannot do the MXing on the firewall
> > machine.  It's a "political" decision.  So, the only way to get mail
> > into the machine inside the FW is to open a socket connection from
> > inside, which then allows two way communication with an smtp server
> > anywhere on the outside.
> >
> > thanks - Frank
> >
> >  >> I've a situation where a domain sits behind a firewall.  I'd
> >  >> like to set
> >  >> up a "polling" situation so the mail server inside the FW can
> >  >> grab mail
> >  >> from the MX'd server outside the firewall.  It appears that
> >  >> "fetchmail"
> >  >> may do this with newer sendmails that are configured to use
> >  >> ESMTP.  The
> >  >> other problem is the IP # that the inside server has will be dynamic
> >  >> (assigned by the firewall) WRT the outside.  It seems this will cause
> >  >> validation problems as there will be no DNS mapping.
> >  >
> >  >In our Company, MS Exchange server stands inside behind FBSD firewall.
> >  >FBSD machine is MX for our domain, and its /etc/mailertable has entry:
> >  >
> >  >novobcs.ee          smtp:[exchange.novobcs.ee]
> >  >
> >  >exchange.novobcs.ee is declared by dns as IP for our inside exchange machine
> >  >It may be 192.168.x.x or whatever
> >  >
> >  >If anyone sends email for our domain, it will be first sent to firewall
> >  >which is MX , and then firewall will send it directly to inside machine
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> >
> > \\\\////\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\
> > Frank Terhaar-Yonkers
> > Cisco Systems, Inc.
> > TISU/NSITE
> > 7025 Kit Creek Road  PO Box 14987
> > Research Triangle Park,  North Carolina  27709
> > fty@cisco.com   voice(919)472-2101 fx(919)472-5600
> >
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