Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:03:49 -0700 From: "Jim Bodkins (Prologic)" <bodkins@prologic.com> To: <freebsd-java@freebsd.org> Subject: Java and why I have trouble sleeping. Message-ID: <001a01c100de$ffbd72b0$251cd3d0@bodkins>
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C100A4.51EB3490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Jesse Noller - The problem that I had with JRun was the depricated = version of tar that was used to build elements of the .sh not JRun = itself. I have never managed to untar the thing. I did install an "old" = version of tar and even that didnt work. So whether JRun works or not, I = have no idea. Dead end right now. I tried posting in general JRun = questions on the allaire forum (that cold fusion thingy) but didnt get = very far. Gabor Kinces - Thanks for the info. I'll bet you are right about the = Hot Spot VM and threads. I tried posting to the Enhydra lists, but was = blocked "for review" or something by a moderator. Not much help there = actually. Ernst de Haan - A port should be easy, but this is so far an = expeditianary foray into the world of java servlets. Doing a port would = mean supporting the port for some time. If I were working in this area = (which might happen) I would definitely do it. I'll think about it. = Honestly, it's just install Linux-jdk1.4beta port (I had to hunt that = down on the ftp server), define JAVA_HOME (/usr/local/Linux-jdk1.4beta) = and JAVA_BIN (/usr/local/Linus-jdk1.4beta/bin/java), untar the resin = archive somewhere (/usr maybe) ,from /usr/resin-2.0.0 run configure, = make, make install, cd /usr and "resin-2.0.0/bin/httpd.sh start" and = it's up. It was like 20 minutes time. Also, as I recall Orion installed = ok but fubared when run. I'll try it again and take notes if you like. = (Although I dont have that version of the Linux jdk installed right = now). As a comment from a programmer that has "heard" a great deal about = Java and it's portability, I think it is odd that Java has this much = difficulty with portability. I have less trouble with perl or tcl/tk, = (I'm primarilly a C/C++ programmer). Cross platform portability will = exist if and when pure java apps can in fact be moved between platforms. = I dont see that yet. It might be nice once it happens though. Since this is supposed to be a "platform independent" system, I = really have no choice but to use the lastest from Sun. Using a specific = implementation on a specific OS defeats the purpose IMO. Nice feedback by the way. Thanks.=20 Jim bodkins@prologic.com ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C100A4.51EB3490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.3103.1000" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Jesse Noller - The problem = that I had=20 with JRun was the depricated version of tar that was used to build = elements of=20 the .sh not JRun itself. I have never managed to untar the thing. I did = install=20 an "old" version of tar and even that didnt work. So whether JRun works = or not,=20 I have no idea. Dead end right now. I tried posting in general JRun = questions on=20 the allaire forum (that cold fusion thingy) but didnt get very = far.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Gabor Kinces - Thanks for = the info.=20 I'll bet you are right about the Hot Spot VM and threads. I tried = posting to the=20 Enhydra lists, but was blocked "for review" or something by a moderator. = Not=20 much help there actually.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Ernst de Haan - A port = should be easy,=20 but this is so far an expeditianary foray into the world of java = servlets. Doing=20 a port would mean supporting the port for some time. If I were working = in this=20 area (which might happen) I would definitely do it. I'll think about it. = Honestly, it's just install Linux-jdk1.4beta port (I had to hunt that = down on=20 the ftp server), define JAVA_HOME (/usr/local/Linux-jdk1.4beta) and = JAVA_BIN=20 (/usr/local/Linus-jdk1.4beta/bin/java), untar the resin archive = somewhere (/usr=20 maybe) ,from /usr/resin-2.0.0 run configure, make, make install, cd /usr = and=20 "resin-2.0.0/bin/httpd.sh start" and it's up. It was like 20 minutes = time. Also,=20 as I recall Orion installed ok but fubared when run. I'll try it again = and take=20 notes if you like. (Although I dont have that version of the Linux jdk = installed=20 right now).</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> As a comment from a = programmer that=20 has "heard" a great deal about Java and it's portability, I think it is = odd that=20 Java has this much difficulty with portability. I have less trouble with = perl or=20 tcl/tk, (I'm primarilly a C/C++ programmer). Cross platform portability = will=20 exist if and when pure java apps can in fact be moved between platforms. = I dont=20 see that yet. It might be nice once it happens though.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Since this is supposed to = be a=20 "platform independent" system, I really have no choice but to use the = lastest=20 from Sun. Using a specific implementation on a specific OS defeats the = purpose=20 IMO.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Nice feedback by the way. = Thanks.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jim</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"mailto:bodkins@prologic.com">bodkins@prologic.com</A></FONT></DIV= > <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C100A4.51EB3490-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message
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