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Date:      Wed, 05 Aug 1998 00:08:32 -0700
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        Chris Hill <jchill@dgsys.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Install *actually* friendly 
Message-ID:  <16467.902300912@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 04 Aug 1998 18:21:52 EDT." <v03007800b1ed30dc8847@[204.97.64.155]> 

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> 1. The instructions-docs-readmes pertaining to the installation need to be
> more explicit on the fact that the boot floppy's little kernel has enough
> smarts to handle an ftp installation all by itself. As they are, the docs

They do.

> 2. Let's say some poor schmuck is trying to do an installation from
> floppies. If one of the diskettes is bad, why does the installer claim to
> have encountered a "Write failure on transfer!" when in fact it was a READ
> error due to the bad floppy?

That's an architectural limitation which is hard to get around - by
the time you're in that particular section of code, you're really not
sure *what* is directly responsible for the failure since you're just
talking to tar down a pipe and the two failure modes are hard to
distinguish.  Not really worth mucking with for an installer which is
(finally!) in the process of going away.

> 3. The schmuck in question can always flip over to the other virtual console
> and look at the debugging info, but only if he knows to press alt-Fx. The

Which it tells you to do - you're not READING closely enough. :)
The message dialogs say explicitly to go look over there (and not
just in the FTP installation on-screen help).

> 4. Since FreeBSD runs on PC hardware, I would have thought the default
> configuration would be set up to deal with all the "normal" devices one
> might expect to find on a PC. Although I don't anticipate using the floppy
> drive much if at all, still, it *is* there. I would have liked not to have
> had to manually edit my /etc/fstab just to be able to use my floppy drive.

Huh?

- Jordan

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