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Date:      Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:52:20 -0700
From:      Peter <fbsdq@yahoo.com>
To:        dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au, "" <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: About Unix
Message-ID:  <SAK.2001.03.08.bnehplin@support10>

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|me there must be a better way. I now use FreeBSD mostly (occasionally
. . . .|OpenBSD)
. . . .|on servers (never workstations) & either Solaris or Win2000 on 
workstations,


Offtopic, but I'm just curios why do you never use FreeBSD as a 
workstation? Why use Solaris as a workstation instead of FreeBSD [I'm 
assuming you are talking Solaris x86], if not this question > /dev/null.

	For me I like FreeBSD as a desktop more than I like linux as a 
destkop, but then again I dont' play games [I have windows for that],  
I've found X and anything else is still easier in FBSD than in Linux 
because of the ports.  But as configuring X in linux and FBSD it's the 
same thing, X isn't made by linux nor by FBSD, but by xfree86.org, so all 
the tools are the same [I think].

	My only gripe with linux, and the reason I ditched it is, because 
it's messy.  It just puts everything and the kitchen sink on your HD, and 
it's up to you to remove everything that's unneeded.  It's hell with getting 
software from a million different places [I'm talking RH 6.1 and it was 
still hell, even with rpms].  Conflicting version of software etc.  In FBSD, 
make worl; make installworld, voila you are set, and you are 99% sure that 
they system will work. [so far it has been like that for me.]

On 03/08/2001 2:43:39 PM, "Doug Young" is quoted as saying:
 

. . . .|I did try a few linuxes wayyyyy back but it was a combination of 
factors
. . . .|(shockingly
. . . .|obtuse docs / instability / woeful GUI / constant lockups / need to 
install
. . . .|a new kernel
. . . .|every other day / etc etc, finally topped off by the HUMBUG 
experience, that
. . . .|convinced
. . . .|me there must be a better way. I now use FreeBSD mostly 
(occasionally
. . . .|OpenBSD)
. . . .|on servers (never workstations) & either Solaris or Win2000 on 
workstations,
. . . .|depending
. . . .|on the applications that need to be run. I use StarOffice (rather than
. . . .|MSOffice) in Solaris & Win2000 but unfortunately most small 
business
. . . .|accounting packages here are DOS /
. . . .|Windows beasts.No linux I used was even as stable as Win98 & 
therefore a
. . . .|long way
. . . .|short of Win2000.
. . . .|
. . . .|The BSDs have definitely proven to be good server O/Ses but the 
GUIs will
. . . .|need to
. . . .|improve a lot before I'll be happy to use them .... compare the messing
. . . .|around thats
. . . .|all too often required to get X running with the ease of configuring 
the
. . . .|Solaris / CDE GUI
. . . .|I guess the BSD developers have little interest in GUI stuff anyway,
. . . .|possibly considering
. . . .|that stuff is for gameplayers rather than serious users (read 
developers)
. . . .|>
. . . .|> The bigoted faithful of Linux won't switch. But they are only a 
fragment
. . . .|> of a tiny minority (you can tell who they are since they pronounce 
Linux
. . . .|> as "guh-noo-lin-nooks").
. . . .|>
. . . .|> I heard an old story about how people decide on which Linux 
distribution
. . . .|> they finally stick with. They bounce from distro to distro until they
. . . .|> find one that matches their personality, hardware and/or 
configuration.
. . . .|> This is the one they stick with. If it happens to be FreeBSD, then
. . . .|> they'll be a BSDer for life.
. . . .|>
. . . .|> Unfortunately, some Linuxers get caught up in the whole GNU jihad, 
and
. . . .|> then the choice of a distribution becomes a religious imperative...
. . . .|
. . . .|Possibly ..... I've never given a lot of thought to the GNU thing .... if
. . . .|something works
. . . .|properly I don't mind paying for it, unfortunately the prices asked 
are
. . . .|often way over
. . . .|the perceived value. Certainly some GNU applications are as good 
as,or
. . . .|better, than
. . . .|commercial software ..... sometimes its the other way around. eg that 
nFTP
. . . .|thing
. . . .|developed by a Russian academic is in many ways vastly superior to 
the likes
. . . .|of CuteFTP,
. . . .|however the whole XFree / KDE scene is a poxridden disaster 
compared with
. . . .|commercial X,
. . . .|so I can't see that GNU in itself is the holy grail of software.
. . . .|
. . . .|
. . . .|
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