Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:31:44 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar <xcllnt@mac.com> To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Cc: FreeBSD Arch <arch@freebsd.org>, Gordon Tetlow <gordon@tetlows.org> Subject: On i18n [was: Re: On errno] Message-ID: <17CC6EDA-E2F7-4BC3-B7EB-EAAA3F80A9C1@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <1571.1238607005@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <1571.1238607005@critter.freebsd.dk>
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On Apr 1, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <A72F9BE4-2D74-436B-9FB3-19CF93AD6F78@mac.com>, Marcel > Moolenaar wri > tes: > >> Personally I'd like to think that that we write an OS for users. > > We write an OS for the people who can and will use an OS written by > us. Doesn't this ipso facto mean that FreeBSD is bound to be used by the same people who develop it? Isn't this a recipe for cliques? Aren't we then predisposed to end up in a situation where only we think we have the best OS, while being ignorant of the fact that we've made ourselves entirely irrelevant to the rest of the world? > Absent a huge influx of translators, FreeBSD is not going to have > a viable I18N footprint. True. But the huge influx will not happen if we don't open the doors and welcome i18n. Your position on it has been far from welcoming indeed. In a sense you use the lack of influx to defend your position that i18n does not have to be considered. How can you be sure that your position that i18n does not have to be considered is the direct cause of the lack of influx? > Such an influx, should it happen, would most likely be rebuffed and > resisted by the current developers of FreeBSD. Right. You block the thing you argue will not happen. That's a comfortable armchair to be arguing from :-) Maybe we should ask ourselves this: if the current developers rebuf and resist influx, isn't it time for them to hand in their commit bits and find some other project to contribute to? note: this is not a personal attack, nor do I imply anyone. It's a philosophical question that applies to me to. I assume that I will block progress some time in the future (assuming I'm not doing it already) simply because I'm too firmly stuck in old ways or fail to catch up to new developments or just because my thinking becomes incompatible with the project. Isn't it better that I move on and let FreeBSD go its separate way? -- Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com
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