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Date:      Wed, 23 May 2018 19:11:21 +0000
From:      "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>
To:        "Brooks Davis" <brooks@freebsd.org>
Cc:        src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r333388 - in head: . share/man/man4 sys/conf sys/dev/nxge sys/modules sys/modules/nxge tools/kerneldoc/subsys tools/tools tools/tools/nxge usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share
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In-Reply-To: <20180523182010.GB58848@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>
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On 23 May 2018, at 18:20, Brooks Davis wrote:

> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:41:17AM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
>> On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 09:14:29PM +0000, Sean Bruno wrote:
>> S> Log:
>> S>   nxge(4):
>> S>   Remove nxge(4) and associated man page and tools in FreeBSD 
>> 12.0.
>> ...
>> S> +20180508:
>> S> +	The nxge(4) driver has been removed.  This driver was for PCI-X 
>> 10g
>> S> +	cards made by s2io/Neterion.  The company was aquired by Exar 
>> and
>> S> +	no longer sells or supports Ethernet products.  If you have 
>> device
>> S> +	nxge in your kernel config file it must be removed.
>> S> +
>>
>> If end of sales and support is enough to remove 10g driver from the 
>> kernel,
>> can we please delete all 10Mbit, 100Mbit 10+ year old drivers from 
>> the kernel?
>
> It's probably a good idea to add deprecation notices for them now and
> merge for 11 to find out which ones still have users.  Someone on IRC
> mentioned that FreeNAS removed them and ended up restoring one, but I
> don't remember which one it was.
>
> My gut feeling is that we're a bit late in the game for doing a mass
> removal for 12, but we should definitely do so for 13.

I’d be very careful.  I can still buy a lot of 100Mbit/s cards and you 
constantly find them on new SoCs still which don’t do Gbit/s.  Also 
there’s a lot of legacy hw floating around for some of them.  12 
definitively seems to be too short term.

/bz



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