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Date:      Wed, 23 May 2018 12:16:23 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
To:        Stefan Esser <se@freebsd.org>
Cc:        rgrimes@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, Sean Bruno <sbruno@freebsd.org>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r333388 - in head: . share/man/man4 sys/conf sys/dev/nxge sys/modules sys/modules/nxge tools/kerneldoc/subsys tools/tools tools/tools/nxge usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share
Message-ID:  <201805231916.w4NJGN9d036638@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
In-Reply-To: <034afbd6-a83a-b753-15fa-5f42eba24b51@freebsd.org>

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> Am 23.05.18 um 20:14 schrieb Rodney W. Grimes:
> >> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:41:17AM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> >>> If end of sales and support is enough to remove 10g driver from the kernel,
> >>> can we please delete all 10Mbit, 100Mbit 10+ year old drivers from the kernel?
> >>
> >> Depends on how many existing users we want to screw over.  Not everyone
> >> replaces all their hardware every 2 years, folks.
> > 
> > And some of us buy 2 year old hardware because it is cheap,
> > and serves our needs just fine.   Even 8 year old servers
> > make usable machines today.
> > 
> >> The difference is that the Exar chips failed in the marketplace; very
> >> few seem to have made it out into the wild.
> >>
> >> Given, 10Mbit-only things are way past their sell-by date.
> > 
> > Do we even have any 10Mbit only drivers?  I think that all the
> > 10mbit drivers also support 100mbit devices, but maybe there
> > are some odd cases I cant remeber.
> 
> AFAIK and FWIW:
> 
> ed(4), le(4) on amd64 and on i386 (ISA and PCI)

ed(4) has many 100 mbit cards.
I recall recently booting something that showed up with an ed0:

le(4) has some 100 mbit cards.  Mostly supersceded by lnc(4)

> ex(4), ep(4) on i386 (ISA and PCcard)
These are truely dead, IMHO.


-- 
Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org



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