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Date:      Thu, 04 May 2000 16:20:34 +0100
From:      Dutch Collins <dutch@charm.net>
To:        Darryl Okahata <darrylo@sr.hp.com>
Cc:        doc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Credit where it's due
Message-ID:  <39119541.7F140F88@charm.net>
References:  <200005041540.IAA29639@mina.sr.hp.com>

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Darryl Okahata wrote:
> 
> Nik Clayton <nik@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
> 
> > To give you an analogy, one of the things that really throws me everytime
> > I see a Linux box booting up is the various copyrights as the boot probes
> > go by.  I'd never expect to see a
> >
> >     [...]
> >     fxp0: <Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet> rev 0x05 int a irq 10
> >     fxp0: Driver written by David Greenman <dg@FreeBSD.org>
> >     [...]
> >
> > in FreeBSD.
> 
>      This issue just popped up yesterday on slashdot.  For a view from
> the peanut gallery, check out, "Advertising in Your Boot Sequence?":
> 
>         http://slashdot.org/articles/00/05/03/0843228.shtml
> 
> > Perhaps a workable solution would be an "acknowledgements" block at the
> > start of the Handbook (and/or FAQ), something like:
> 
>      Another good place would be an appendix, especially if the list
> grows large.
> 
>      I think giving credit is a good idea, although it should be
> unobtrusive.  A paragraph in the introduction, or some appendix in the
> back, are good places.
> 
> --
>         Darryl Okahata
>         darrylo@sr.hp.com
> 
> DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not
> constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or
> of the little green men that have been following him all day.

I saw the slashdot stuff, read some too. So, here it is from the
reader's point of view. Oh, ALL I want is device and version. I don't
need a bunch of distraction from drivers or kernels. [note: I almost
got fired for putting a "done by" name code in an EPROM boot msg once
but times do change. "booting v1.0a system (by:DEC/1980)" was sort of
what I remember.
SO;
(a) the major writer (author, editor?) should get "up front" billing.
    example: How I killed my system and how to keep from doing it!
             by:name or mail address. The guys that helped the writer
             can go to the end.
    Is this not normal? I would not mind because I "helped" and was
    acknowledged. And the manual does not suffer.

(b) Software when booting should give diagnostics, read the code or
    the manual if one wants to know who created/wrote/edit/printed.

Just what I think. Someday even I will send some good info in and
for sure it will get modified. Back to today's problem now....

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