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Date:      Thu, 3 May 2001 08:31:55 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Rick Duvall <maillist@coastsight.com>
To:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        Andrew Hesford <ajh3@chmod.ath.cx>, questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: What is BSD
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105030831370.20381-100000@ns1.coastsight.com>
In-Reply-To: <15089.53.575798.364087@guru.mired.org>

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Are they still alive?  No offense......

On Thu, 3 May 2001, Mike Meyer wrote:

> Andrew Hesford <ajh3@chmod.ath.cx> types:
> > On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:32:15AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > > Andrew Hesford <ajh3@chmod.ath.cx> types:
> > > > On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:17:50AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > > > > Andrew Hesford <ajh3@chmod.ath.cx> types:
> > > > > > Back in the days when I was, oh, about -13 years old (yes, that's a
> > > > > > minus sign), a man named Dennis Ritchie and some of his cohorts at Bell
> > > > > > Labs decided to build an operating system to run on their PDP-11
> > > > > Um - that was a PDP-7, and it was never known as "Unics", but was Unix
> > > > > from the first, though that was indeed a pun on Multics. They didn't
> > > > > write a PDP-11 version of Unix until after the PDP-11 was available.
> > > > I wasn't sure about either of those... but the UNIX timeline, available
> > > > at the URL I posted before, shows UNIX coming from UNICS. This was
> > > > September 1969. The first UNIX release is listed as November 3, 1971.
> > > > 
> > > > The site has a fair amount of information, including links to the home
> > > > pages of Brian Kernighan, Dennis Ritchie, Ken Thompson and others. Here
> > > > is the URL again: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/levenez/unix/. I urge you all
> > > > to check it out.
> > > 
> > > That also includes the AT&T paper on the history of Unix, which I used
> > > to verify the original machine type. It happened to mentioned the
> > > origin of the name.
> > 
> > I was only wrong in one place then, the original machine. From
> > http://www.unix-systems.org/what_is_unix/history_timeline.html:
> > 	The result was a system which a punning colleague called UNICS
> > 	(UNiplexed Information and Computing Service)--an 'emasculated
> > 	Multics'; no one recalls whose idea the change to UNIX was
> 
> According to Ritchie (one of the two original authors): "Althought it
> was not until well into 1970 that Brian Kernighan suggested the name
> 'UNIX,', in a somewhat treacherous pun on 'Multics,' ..." <URL:
> http://www.bell-labs.com/history/unix/almost.html >.
> 
> Kernighan is clearly the "punning colleague" that Salus refers to, but
> the quote from Ritchie uses the X spelling, not the CS one.
> 
> If you're really curious, you could try emailing the people involved
> about it.g
> 
> 	<mike
> --
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