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Date:      Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:38:31 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Scott Bennett <bennett@cs.niu.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kris@obsecurity.org
Subject:   Re: annoying problems after upgrading to 6.2-RELEASE
Message-ID:  <20070427063831.GA21999@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <200704270430.l3R4UK4q025284@mp.cs.niu.edu>
References:  <200704270430.l3R4UK4q025284@mp.cs.niu.edu>

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On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 11:30:20PM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote:
>      On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:13:40 -0400 Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.or=
g>
> wrote:
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> >On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 08:51:50PM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote:
> >>      I've encountered three annoying problems since doing the upgrade =
from
> >> 6.1-RELEASE to 6.2-RELEASE using the upgrade option when booting from =
the
> >> installation CD.  This is on a Dell Inspiron XPS (3.4 GHz P4 w/HTT ena=
bled
> >> and 1 GB of memory).
> >>=3D20
> >> 	1) The ports and packages subsystems are as fragile as ever (no big
> >> 	   surprise).  I was able to add packages for less than a day before
> >> 	   it broke.  Sometimes I can still add or delete a package, but
> >> 	   in at least one case, I can't because pkg_add says that an earlier
> >> 	   version of the package is already installed, while an attempt to
> >> 	   remove the earlier version using pkg_delete gets a message saying
> >> 	   that no such package is installed.  Apparently, pkg_add and
> >> 	   pkg_delete do not refer to the same indicators of whether a
> >> 	   particular package is actually installed.  Attempting to build por=
ts
> >> 	   fails while trying to build dependency ports, which was what led
> >> 	   to attempt to remove libtool and then add the newer version.  I'll
> >> 	   try to get a PR together and submitted soon.
> >
> >It is recommended to use an upgrade tool like portupgrade instead of
> >trying to use pkg_add/pkg_delete "by hand".  It is too easy to misuse
>=20
>      portinstall/portupgrade had failed to install/upgrade certain ports =
or
> packages to satisfy the dependencies in the ports I was trying to install=
 or
> upgrade.  I really did want to install or upgrade several ports, and so I=
 had
> begun attempting to install the required (or later) versions of the
> prerequisites as packages in order to get around the build failures.

It sounds like you may not have succeeded in first bringing your
system back to a sane state.  Anyway, if you have problems please be
more explicit here.

> >them and leave your system in an inconsistent state, as yours
> >apparently has become.
>=20
>      That sounds to me like an attempt to skate past my observation that
> "Apparently, pkg_add and pkg_delete do not refer to the same indicators of
> whether a particular package is actually installed."

Well, they don't...please paste an appropriate transcript if you think
there is a bug.

>      BTW, it is recommended that plain, ASCII text be posted to mailing
> lists, so as not to send lots of garbage to people who may or may not be
> using MIME-oriented mail interfaces or using MIME-oriented mail interfaces
> whose version of MIME is incapatible with that of the sender's mail inter=
face.

Uh thanks.  Read up on "PGP signatures" sometime.

Kris

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