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Date:      Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:06:56 -0800
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
To:        Chris H <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com>, d@delphij.net,  Davide Italiano <davide@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>,  FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: default pager (csh)
Message-ID:  <54E66C90.10902@mu.org>
In-Reply-To: <a6684dcbda73144b6a59204f37e94ba7@ultimatedns.net>
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On 2/19/15 9:04 AM, Chris H wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 00:16:55 -0800 Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> wrote
>
>> On 2/18/15 3:41 PM, Xin Li wrote:
>>> The _only_ reason that I can think of is that more(1) does not clear
>>> screen for certain terminals (done with 'ti' and 'te' sequences),
>>> while less(1) when running as less does.
>>>
>>> The less(1) behavior can be annoying to some people (sometimes even
>>> myself when using less to show contents of a file and ^Z to paste
>>> them), and unfortunately quite a few of them also happen to be the
>>> more vocal ones when it comes to a change.
>> I find that behaviour infuriating
>>
>> I page down to a place to get some text on the screen to use as  a
>> reference, then exit to run a command with that information, and *bam*
>> the info I wanted to use has gone away.
> Indeed. Quite annoying.
> I just had an interesting thought after reading most of this
> thread/bikeshed;
> Theoretical, mind you. But would it be remotely possible to
> [in (t)csh(1)] choose a pager on-the-fly (dynamically)?
> In other words; bind keys to a chosen pager;
>
> ^M switches to more(1)
> ^L switched to less(1)
>
> I've done no *actual* research [yet] but just thought
> I'd bring it up. As it seemed worth a shot, as it would
> satisfy *anyone's* need. :)
>
Not as annoying as people who don't search the web for an answer for things.

~ % export PAGER="less -X"

everyone please stop crying over small changes, it really sucks.

-Alfred



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