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Date:      Thu, 09 Oct 2025 19:41:22 +0200
From:      "Christos Margiolis" <christos@freebsd.org>
To:        "Mark Johnston" <markj@freebsd.org>
Cc:        =?utf-8?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@freebsd.org>, <src-committers@freebsd.org>, <dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>, <dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org>, <0mp@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: git: 9cab9fde5eda - main - virtual_oss: Port to base
Message-ID:  <DDDZ5T1KC0OJ.1CDQG7R5MCJ05@freebsd.org>
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On Tue Oct 7, 2025 at 4:10 PM CEST, Mark Johnston wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2025 at 03:48:26PM +0200, Christos Margiolis wrote:
>> On Tue Oct 7, 2025 at 11:26 AM CEST, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav wrote:
>> > Christos Margiolis <christos@FreeBSD.org> writes:
>> >>  libexec/rc/rc.d/virtual_oss                        |  119 +
>> >
>> > This contains a reference to a non-existent sndiod service.
>>=20
>> I am aware. I discussed this with 0mp@ during EuroBSDCon in Zagreb and
>> decided that it probably does not hurt too much to leave it there, at
>> least for now.
>
> Well, it'll break the test added in https://reviews.freebsd.org/D52954,
> which will be useful for catching bugs.

If I understand correctly, the test is meant to catch dependency cycles?
If yes, why would we have one here?

>> It's important to note that for most users sndiod actually is not
>> needed. This is only needed when virtual_oss(8) runs with sndio support,
>> which has been moved to a new port: audio/virtual_oss_sndio.
>
> Why not just modify the sndiod script to REQUIRE virtual_oss?

Why REQUIRE and not BEFORE? virtual_oss is not *required* for sndiod to
run, and vice-versa. sndiod is required by virtual_oss(8) only when
virtual_oss(8) wants to use sndio devices.

Christos



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