Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 08:09:12 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht <lists@cmplx.uk> To: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] stable/15: new base packages for PAM, zstd Message-ID: <aeslKG5UCOmV0ROY@cmplx.uk> In-Reply-To: <700c882a-ae24-403a-a8e0-5ceffed569ae@yahoo.com> References: <adTq6tMP4GWQS35e@amaryllis.le-fay.org> <aeedOZ7VcQAOsQCV@cmplx.uk> <3847a70c-f2d8-4c4a-a5f0-56a4a90168b0@yahoo.com> <aeh6ddAuDClL4YFn@cmplx.uk> <aek7L4X26D0zQTU-@amaryllis.le-fay.org> <aenUvAuAGC8SgpKi__40328.3866167598$1776932059$gmane$org@cmplx.uk> <700c882a-ae24-403a-a8e0-5ceffed569ae@yahoo.com>
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 09:54:41AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: > On 4/23/26 01:13, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 10:18:39PM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote: > >> Anton Shterenlikht wrote in <aeh6ddAuDClL4YFn@cmplx.uk>: > >>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 12:52:43PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: > >>>> On 4/21/26 08:52, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 07, 2026 at 12:30:50PM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote: > >>>>> I recently upgraded Lenovo T480 laptop from some 14.x relase to 15.0-RELEASE-p4. > >>>>> I'm still figuring out the use of pkg for base upgrades. > >>>>> > >>>>> For a few weeks all was working more or less well (some unexpected > >>>>> reboots, but I had no time to dig into that). > >>>>> > >>>>> After reading your mail, I typed the pkg query command you suggested, > >>>>> which returned nothing. > >>>>> I then did "pkg install FreeBSD-set-minimal". > >>>>> When that completed, I realised that my user is gone.... > >>>>> > >>>>> Looking at /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd I see that indeed > >>>>> my user is not there anymore. > >>>> > >>>> Did you end up with the likes of: > >>>> > >>>> /etc/passwd.pkgsave > >>>> /etc/master.passwd.pkgsave > >>> > >>> Yes, I have /etc/master.passwd.pkgsave > >>> > >>> So what happened? > >>> Is it expected that "pkg install FreeBSD-set-minimal" > >>> should erase all ordinary users from /etc/master.passwd > >>> and save the original file as /etc/master.passwd.pkgsave? > >> > >> no, something has gone wrong here. > >> > >> how did you install this system? > >> > >> /etc/master.passwd is in the FreeBSD-runtime package, which must always > >> be installed on a pkgbase system. the only reason 'pkg upgrade' would > >> overwrite it with a pristine copy is if you somehow didn't have that > >> package installed, but if that was the case, the system would already > >> be completely non-functional. > >> > >> the only way i can imagine this happening if you had a non-pkgbase > >> system, then installed FreeBSD-runtime (e.g., as a dependency of > >> FreeBSD-set-minimal), but this should not be possible in a normal > >> non-pkgbase installation since the FreeBSD-base repository won't > >> be enabled. > > > > I admit I got a bit complacent... doing major and minor > > updates with freebsd-update for years about any issue, > > that I stopped reading UPDATING, and such. > > So all this is my fault probably. > > > > I used freebsd-update to upgrade from some 14.4 to 15.0. > > So 14.* was never in pkgbase form? correct > > > > > Once on 15.0, when updating ports, I noticed some differences, > > read some posts, and found out about pkgbase. > > So the conversion to pkgbase started from a pnon-pkgbase 15.0 to produce > a pkgbase 15.0? Not sure, maybe I never converted. What does it mean to have a "pkgbase" system? How can I check? BTW, I noticed that my versions diverged somehow: # freebsd-version -kru 15.0-RELEASE-p4 15.0-RELEASE-p4 15.0-RELEASE-p6 > > Did you use https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/pkgbasify to do the > conversion (no matter which FreeBSD version was the starting point)? no Does this mean my system is *not* a pkgbase system? I.e. one must use pkgbasify, as per https://wiki.freebsd.org/action/show/pkgbase to convert an non-pkgbase 15.0 to a pkgbase 15.0? I assumed that all I need is /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf with ports, ports-kmods and FreeBSD-base. Time to rtfm I guess... Thank you Antonhome | help
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