Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 09:35:16 -0700 From: "Khardis d'Gorith" <khardis@mindspring.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fix this Message-ID: <35F16843.952BC9F7@mindspring.com>
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I am beyond upset at this moment, and im hoping this e-mail for FreeBSD
is working. First of all, I doubt this email has anything to do with the
mailing list spam im getting. Secondly, I really don't care, since no
one at that spam list will respond. Thirdly, the email address I am
supposed to respond to doesnt even exist. So, I will be taking my
complaints here and expecting results. I'll just copy and paste the last
mail I sent that was sent back to me, since no one was at the email
address to recieve it. And i'll also be cutting and pasting the spam
mail I am recieving once per day.
This has to do with the domain drow@drow.net that has somehow gotten on
your list. A) I have NEVER given out drow@drow.net as an email address.
B) I have never asked for FreeBSD's services either concerning my newly
aquired domain. C) If im gonna get spammed once a day, there SHOULD be
someone there to answer my questions and stop the spamming.
From: "Khardis d'Gorith" <khardis@mindspring.com>
To: bounces-approval@FreeBSD.ORG
Date sent: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:15:18 -0700
Subject: Fet up
Send reply to: khardis@drow.net
Priority: normal
Look, to whoever is running the spam mail that im recieving once a
day. Remove me from the list IMMEDIATELY. Perhaps the tone of my
voice is harsh, but my questions have been ignored for weeks and I
have not recieved ONE response from the many emails I have sent,
inquiring to what it is I have to subscribe or unsubscribe to.
Because of your lack to help me, I have made up my mind to
unsubscribe after waiting through 2 weeks worth of spamming on your
end. And now, even after I unsubscribe I am still plagued by your
spam mails. I am truly FET UP with this, and wish it to end now. I do
not
appreciate having my mailbox littered by unwanted mail, and especially
do
not appreciate this mail appearing for 3 straight weeks, even after I
unsubscribed. Now, I dont know why YOU must approve of taking me off
your
list, when I NEVER gave you permission to add me, so please remove me at
once. Good day.
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To: khardis@drow.net
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>>>> http://www.drow.net
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>>>> Knowledge is power.
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>>>> We plan on giving you both.
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(this is the mail I recieve once per day, and since its comming from an
unknown source, I cannot block sender. So do something about it)
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Your address has been moved to Bounces@FreeBSD.ORG
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jmb
dominus@bnoc.net (971230 freebsd-questions)
pl2@centauri.balernochs.edin.sch.uk (980102 freebsd-hackers)
hmin@public.cq.sc.cn (980107 freebsd-hackers)
mail1@concerto.neosoft.com (980107 freebsd-questions)
root@techster.dyn.ml.org (980107 freebsd-questions)
siman@nbs.sk (980107 freebsd-security-notifications)
geniusj@bsd.dialup.bestweb.net (980107 freebsd-bugs)
sparky@muma.tasur.edu.ru (980107 freebsd-hackers)
maillist@home.comhelp.com (980110 freebsd-questions)
martinm@unison.com (980110 freebsd-questions)
dugger@metapath.com (980110 freebsd-config)
abial@korin.warman.org.pl (980111 freebsd-current)
ap@bti.secna.ru (980111 freebsd-hackers-digest)
root@shiva.seranis.com.au (980112 freebsd-isp)
niemi@freenet.hut.fi (980112 freebsd-isp)
ronan.brennan@penrose.isocor.ie (980124 freebsd-bugs)
smalifreebsd@hotmail.com (980124 freebsd-hackers)
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pan@hepweb.com (980124 freebsd-isp)
marcin@wrss.amp.pw.edu.pl (980124 freebsd-hackers)
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octavio@cdcc-gwy.cdcc.sc.usp.br@cisc.sc.usp.br (980124
freebsd-questions)
wghhicks@ix.netcom.com (980124 freebsd-jobs)
ricardo@hwbji.com.cn (980124 freebsd-hackers)
freebsd@netw.com (980126 freebsd-stable)
gemohler@c-com.net (980126 freebsd-announce)
mailing@ranma.phy.ncku.edu.tw (980126 freebsd-atm)
mailing@hpcclab.hallym.ac.kr (980126 freebsd-atm)
jbrann@jbrann.org (980126 test)
bsd@post2.nifhi.ac.ru (980127 freebsd-isp)
freebsd-isp@tpu.ru (980127 freebsd-isp)
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pujadas@lix.intercom.es (980127 freebsd-isp)
flash@interpow.net (980127 freebsd-isp)
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opencvs@development.nyct.net (980128 freebsd-ports)
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Now, I know I am sounding like a jerk, but im passed fet up. I never
asked to be on this list, and then when I asked for a response THREE
times I was ignored, and when I decided just to unsubscribe I was told I
needed permission. I do NOT need permission to remove my name from a
spamming list ESPECIALLY when I didnt ask to be on it in the first
place. Then, I send my complaint to the new email address it lists, only
to have it sent back because it doesnt even exist. I don't want to email
about this again. 3 weeks worth of spam is quite enough, and now I am
expecting definate results.
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