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Date:      Sun, 10 Nov 2013 10:23:30 -0700 (MST)
From:      Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
To:        Philipp Ost <pj@smo.de>
Cc:        FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Matthew Seaman <matthew@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: cron(8) improvement
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1311101023080.91068@wonkity.com>
In-Reply-To: <527FBB6B.5020706@smo.de>
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2013, Philipp Ost wrote:

> Warren Block schrieb:
> [...]
>>> ie either the file is named such that it is ignored by cron
>>> (preferable IMO) or the entries in them are commented out.
>> 
>> Why not just use an additional entry in rc.conf?
>> 
>> rsnapshot_cron="YES"
>> 
>> (If there is a /usr/local/etc/cron.d/rsnapshot, add it to cron on
>> start/restart.)
>> 
>> This brings up another problem.  When a port is removed, what is done
>> with ports cron entries that have been user modified?  Normally,
>> modified files would not be removed, but a cron entry for a removed port
>> definitely should not be running any more, even if the admin forgot to
>> remove the entry in rc.conf.  But just removing the modified file is bad
>> also, because maybe the port was just removed as part of an upgrade.
>
> Given the above scenario, would it be acceptable to set the entry in rc.conf, 
> $portname_cron=YES, to $portname_cron=NO without touching the modified files 
> and inform the user about having done so?

I would not want the system modifying rc.conf for me, but don't have a
better idea at present.  Maybe move customized cronfiles to an "old"
folder on deinstall, so at least the user could recover them.


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