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Date:      Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:51:56 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Barrett Richardson <barrett@phoenix.aye.net>
To:        Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org>
Cc:        Chris Parry <laotzu@juniper.net>, blk@skynet.be, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Roasting Newbies
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.01.9910101936500.18882-100000@phoenix.aye.net>
In-Reply-To: <199910091303.JAA33525@blackhelicopters.org>

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On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Michael Lucas wrote:

> 
> But I'd rather intercept these before they reach a developer, and
> point said newbie at a web page that says "This is how you submit a
> NIC driver report."  Make the page very detailed.  Show said newbie
> that they, too, can actually gather the necessary information to file
> a useful and sensible PR.  By the time said developer checks his mail,
> I want him to see not only the trouble report, but the reply that
> says, "Check out http://..../nic-trouble-report.html"
> 

As an end user something I could make use of is a periodic
posting at regular intervals of some basic info on where to find
stuff like http://..../nic-trouble-report.html. What consists
of a problem that should be presented in -hackers, -current,
-stable .... etc. Maybe some links to stuff like Greg's tips
on formatting e-mail, using -question effectively. A pointer
on where to find information on how to collect useful 
information from a panic, stuff like that. Just kind of
a mini FAQ or HOWTO that explains how to "go with the flow"
when presenting problems.



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