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Date:      Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:46:25 -0600
From:      Anti <fearow@attbi.com>
To:        Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
Cc:        list@linopryne.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: why BIND and sendmail installed by default?
Message-ID:  <20030313174625.0f43f0ac.fearow@attbi.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030312211148.GA21463@gothmog.gr>
References:  <1598.192.168.0.4.1047484743.squirrel@mail.linopryne.com> <20030312211148.GA21463@gothmog.gr>

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On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:11:48 +0200
Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:

[snip]

> really very, *very*, basic services that a Unix machine should be
> ready to serve without having to go through tons of ports/packages
> just to install bind.


why not just have the package install by default so those who don't
want it can easily remove it?


[snip a bunch of arguments moot were the packages installed by default
instead of making everything part of the base system]


> With a spare partition /dev/ad0s2a that can be used as a temp root
> directory the process should be as easy as:


[snip]


you don't need a spare partition, any empty directory will do. whenever
i install freebsd i do a minimal install, then build and install world
and kernel from source with everything possible disabled in make.conf,
then installkernel, installworld, mergemaster -i -D to an empty
directory, then use diff to find all the crap that can be deleted.


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