Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:54:13 +0100 From: "Mark Rowlands" <mark.rowlands@mypost.se> To: "Robert William Vesterman" <bob@vesterman.com>, <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Gnome without the stuff? Message-ID: <BD0E3A5283394E40A6A353103B1C57818029@exchsrv1>
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> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20
> Robert William Vesterman
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 4:32 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Gnome without the stuff?
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> Mark Rowlands wrote:
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> >/usr/ports/www/firefox
> >/usr/ports/www/epiphany
> >/usr/ports/mail/evolution
> >/usr/ports/games/gnome-music-quiz
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomeattacks
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomebreakout
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomechess
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomegames2
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomegames2-extra-data
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomekiss
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomememoryblocks
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomermin
> >
> >Sure they have dependencies, you might need X........
> > =20
> >
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding something fundamental. Is "Gnome"=20
> nothing more than the collection of applications like=20
> Evolution and Epiphany and the little game with the colored=20
> marbles? I thought it was a GUI environment, not an application suite.
As the BSD package states :-
GNU Network Object Model Environment
This metaport installs the entire GNOME 2 desktop, including
the the most common user applications. Other popular GNOME
applications can be installed from the other GNOME 2 metaports:
* x11/gnome2-fifth-toe
* x11/gnome2-power-tools
* editors/gnome2-office
* devel/gnome2-hacker-tools
WWW: http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/
> Now, I understand that epiphany and so forth can be installed=20
> via their own ports. But the "gnome2" package installs=20
> epiphany and evolution and gnomegames and assorted other=20
> gnomecrappitycrap (I'm sure it's wonderful stuff, no offense=20
> intended by this choice of words). Gnome2 "depends"=20
> upon the little game with the colored marbles. But I just=20
> want the Gnome desktop without that game, and so forth.
Nja.... Now I see...... In that case I would start hacking at
the Makefile in /usr/ports/x11/gnome2-lite - take out a few
Of those runtime dependencies. =20
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> But if I'm right that Gnome is nothing more than=20
> gnomecrappitycrap et al, then maybe what I'm really looking=20
> for would be the Windows Manager that Gnome uses by default?=20
> That is, Metacity? Maybe?
Sawfish perhaps?
> I'm sorry if these are stupid questions - I'm mostly new to=20
> this, and am confused as to the roles of (Gnome/KDE/Whatever)=20
> versus (Metacity/WindowMaker/Whatever).
Nope... Not stupid.... KDE / Gnome provide fully featured
desktops out of the box so to speak, I prefer to use a window
manager appropriate to the task/capabilities of the machine I
am using. Usually windowmaker or xfce but I have KDE on my laptop
to show windows folks - I also have XP on my laptop to show unix
folks ;-) =20
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> >Personally I want the moon on a stick.
> > =20
> >
> I'm sorry, I can't help you with that.
>=20
Goddamn....is there no one pit there that can help me that.
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