Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:44:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@hub.freebsd.org> To: nate@mt.sri.com Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch Message-ID: <19991011174430.2B133153CB@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <199910111534.JAA14592@mt.sri.com> (message from Nate Williams on Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:34:33 -0600)
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> Reply-To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) > > > > "Accidental" removals from the lists are so common that I give up. I no > > > longer even try to get back on them -- it's been happening for _years_ now, > > > and I have made multiple complaints about it, and if it's not a problem for > > > whoever runs the mailing lists, then I just don't care that much. > > > > only one comment. i remove people from the lists whenever > > their email bounces. > > How long do you wait to determine 'bounced' email? I've bounced mail to > hotmail recently, and it wasn't hotmail accounts problem. (No comments > from the peanut gallery, it's an easy way for our folks on the road to > get email simply.. :) when the MTA gives up trying to deliver the mail, i call it bounced. so a 500 series error from the other MTA means the email has bounced. > > > the threshhold is approximately 30 messages in a > > 24 hour period. > > Or 5 minutes worth of emai on -hackers. :) > > > mail may bounce due to DNS problems, mail box full, > > MTA misconfiguration. i also remove people that send vacation > > messages to the list. oh, and spammers. > > How do you cause 'vacation' to not send messages to the list? Doesn't > the stock 'vacation' program as shipped in FreeBSD send them to the > list? dont know.....if i see them, i unsubscribe the person. [snip][ > Some of the people (who apparently have problems) didn't even know they > had problems.... > > Even so, do you have a copy of said scripts? Given that -arch and > -security are not allowed to use the 'which' command, do they simply > re-subscribe themselves on a weekly basis 'just in case'? no i dont....people have said that they use them....but its like my baseball coach said to me when i asked if i could steal second base: "okay, but dont get caught!" > > Inquiring minds would like to know... > > Even a simple way of finding out (obviously not via email) *IF* I had > been subscribed would be great. A 'unsubscribed' mailing list that I > could run 'which' on that would tell me which lists I'm no longer on, > however I can imagine that would be a lot of work. tried that....in majordomo its called the bounces list. remove people from teh regular list and subscribe them to bounces, then they get a note every week telling them about it.....no one every unsubscribed from bounces and ressubscribed to teh regular list. i ended up having to explain it to people. excessive overhead. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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