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Date:      Tue, 23 Dec 2025 12:06:53 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>
Cc:        Current <current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Changes in cam/nvme causes issues?
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On Tue, Dec 23, 2025 at 7:19 AM Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>
wrote:

> Am 2025-12-23 10:31, schrieb Alexander Leidinger:
>
> Am 2025-12-22 17:58, schrieb Warner Losh:
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 21, 2025 at 8:37 AM Alexander Leidinger <
> Alexander@leidinger.net> wrote:
>
> Am 2025-12-14 14:05, schrieb Warner Losh:
>
> Let's do one issue at a time. There's too much missing info. Top posting
> since there's  not a lot of context to this request
>
>
> The disk died now completely, so the CRC errors are out of reach now.
>
>
> First, let's start with pciconf -l of the nvme drive. I have a strong
> idea, but need some data.
>
>
> While already provided privately with some other data, here for the public
> so that people are aware that currently there is an issue with such drives:
> nvme0@pci0:5:0:0: class=0x010802 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x144d
> device=0xa809 subvendor=0x144d subdevice=0xa801
> Samsung SSD 980 1TB 2B4QFXO7 S649NL0T819360V
>
>
> Yea, so far this is the only report I've received, and there's not enough
> data in it to reproduce it with any of the dozen NVMe drives that I have,
> or to spot a difference with what I know I check in the code. So if it's
> compiled into the kernel with cam also compiled into the kernel, I know it
> works.
>
>
> CAM is in the kerne, nvme is loaded as a module (from 15-current):
> ---snip---
> # kldstat | egrep '(nvm|cam)'
>  2    1 0xffffffff811e3000    20db8 nvme.ko
> ---snip---
>
> I will do a clean rebuild with the most recent 16-current and provide a
> full dmesg if this still doesn't work.
>
>
> As a module it fails:
> [1] link_elf_obj: symbol nvme_handle_aen_desc undefined
> [1] KLD file nvme.ko - could not finalize loading
>

The kld problem has been fixed.

Warner


> Bye,
> Alexander.
>
> F
>
>
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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 23, 2025 at 7:19 AM Alexander Leidinger &lt;<a href="mailto:Alexander@leidinger.net">Alexander@leidinger.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<p id="m_-7822573336695926646reply-intro">Am 2025-12-23 10:31, schrieb Alexander Leidinger:</p>
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<p id="m_-7822573336695926646v1reply-intro">Am 2025-12-22 17:58, schrieb Warner Losh:</p>
<blockquote style="padding:0px 0.4em;border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin:0px">
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Dec 21, 2025 at 8:37 AM Alexander Leidinger &lt;<a href="mailto:Alexander@leidinger.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexander@leidinger.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p id="m_-7822573336695926646v1v1m_-6883825662093253788reply-intro">Am 2025-12-14 14:05, schrieb Warner Losh:</p>
<blockquote style="padding:0px 0.4em;border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin:0px">
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<div dir="auto">Let&#39;s do one issue at a time. There&#39;s too much missing info. Top posting since there&#39;s  not a lot of context to this request </div>
</div>
</blockquote>
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<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto"> </div>
<div dir="auto">The disk died now completely, so the CRC errors are out of reach now.</div>
<div dir="auto"> </div>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote style="padding:0px 0.4em;border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin:0px">
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<div dir="auto">First, let&#39;s start with pciconf -l of the nvme drive. I have a strong idea, but need some data.</div>
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</div>
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<div dir="auto"> </div>
<div dir="auto">While already provided privately with some other data, here for the public so that people are aware that currently there is an issue with such drives:</div>
<div dir="auto">nvme0@pci0:5:0:0: class=0x010802 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x144d device=0xa809 subvendor=0x144d subdevice=0xa801</div>
<div dir="auto">Samsung SSD 980 1TB 2B4QFXO7 S649NL0T819360V</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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<div> </div>
<div>Yea, so far this is the only report I&#39;ve received, and there&#39;s not enough data in it to reproduce it with any of the dozen NVMe drives that I have, or to spot a difference with what I know I check in the code. So if it&#39;s compiled into the kernel with cam also compiled into the kernel, I know it works.</div>
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<div>CAM is in the kerne, nvme is loaded as a module (from 15-current):</div>
<div>---snip---</div>
<div># kldstat | egrep &#39;(nvm|cam)&#39;<br> 2    1 0xffffffff811e3000    20db8 nvme.ko</div>
<div>---snip---</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I will do a clean rebuild with the most recent 16-current and provide a full dmesg if this still doesn&#39;t work.</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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<div>As a module it fails:</div>
<div>[1] link_elf_obj: symbol nvme_handle_aen_desc undefined<br>[1] KLD file nvme.ko - could not finalize loading</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The kld problem has been fixed.</div><div><br></div><div>Warner</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif"><div id="m_-7822573336695926646replybody1" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif"><div id="m_-7822573336695926646v1replybody1"><div dir="ltr"><div>
<div>Bye,</div>
<div>Alexander.</div>
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