Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:34:51 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net> To: "Devon H. O'Dell" <dodell@sitetronics.com> Cc: security@freebsd.org Subject: RE: realpath(3) et al Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030812143325.087525b8@209.112.4.2> In-Reply-To: <00e501c360ff$9ffbc470$9f8d2ed5@internal> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030812142811.07fbbc58@209.112.4.2>
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OK, I already have donated money and equipment and resources. I will do
again in the very near future. Your turn :-) This really should be moved
over to the advocacy list BTW
---Mike
At 08:29 PM 12/08/2003 +0200, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
>Right, but without some particular initiative drive that the organization is
>trying to do such a thing, it's difficult to get others to follow in the
>footsteps. I'd happily be the first to donate to this cause, as long as I
>knew that others would be doing the same. I sure as hell-fire can't donate
>1.5M. I can donate $150.
>
>Devon
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> > security@freebsd.org] Namens Mike Tancsa
> > Verzonden: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:29 PM
> > Aan: Devon H. O'Dell
> > CC: security@freebsd.org
> > Onderwerp: RE: realpath(3) et al
> >
> > At 05:30 PM 12/08/2003 +0200, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
> > >not knowing if/when others will be doing the same. There needs to be an
> > >initiative from the FreeBSD group to get this started -- people need to
> > be
> > >able to click a button on the front page of freebsd.org and be able to
> > >donate as much money as they want (or find out where to send a check).
> >
> > There already is.
> > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > >Should I propose this on freebsd-audit?
> >
> > This is more of an advocacy discussion now :-)
> >
> > ---Mike
> >
> >
> > >Is there any way I can help other
> > >than via a monetary contribution? I'd like to do both.
> > >
> > >Kind regards,
> > >
> > >Devon H. O'Dell
> > >Systems and Network Engineer
> > >Simpli, Inc. Web Hosting
> > >http://www.simpli.biz
> > >
> > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > Van: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> > > > security@freebsd.org] Namens Chris Odell
> > > > Verzonden: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:16 PM
> > > > Aan: 'Devon H. O'Dell'
> > > > CC: security@freebsd.org
> > > > Onderwerp: RE: realpath(3) et al
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Corporations - INTERNET Companies...
> > > >
> > > > If you look at the big picture, having a O.S. that has been audited
> > > > for issues would actually be cost effective for them. Having to patch
> > a
> > > > machine that is in service causes downtime.
> > > >
> > > > Lets see -
> > > >
> > > > Each machine takes ten (10) minutes of human work to drop into
> > single
> > > > user mode and install new binaries/kernels
> > > >
> > > > The company has one thousand (1000) machines
> > > >
> > > > That comes to ten thousand (10000) minutes, broken down to hours -
> > 167
> > > > Hours
> > > >
> > > > The average admin say is making forty five (45) dollars a hour -
> > over
> > > > $7000.00 - not including taxes paid by employer.
> > > >
> > > > So if one hundred fifty companies donated one thousand dollars
>(1000)
> > > > it would save them downtime, payroll, and taxes.
> > > >
> > > > Just a rough estimate and my 2 cents
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris Odell
> > > > chris@redstarnetworks.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org
> > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Devon H.
> > O'Dell
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:42 AM
> > > > To: 'Brooks Davis'
> > > > Cc: security@freebsd.org
> > > > Subject: RE: realpath(3) et al
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Okay, so where do we begin with taking contributions?
> > > >
> > > > Devon
> > > >
> > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > Van: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> > > > > security@freebsd.org] Namens Brooks Davis
> > > > > Verzonden: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:38 PM
> > > > > Aan: Devon H. O'Dell
> > > > > CC: security@freebsd.org
> > > > > Onderwerp: Re: realpath(3) et al
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 10:24:16AM +0200, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
> > > > > > What sorts of security standards commissions are there, how much
> > > > > > does getting "standards certified" cost, and where should we
>start?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the ballpark number I heard for a minimal certification
> > under
> > > > > Common Criteria was $1.5m.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Brooks
> > > >
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